Mac Marketshare Increasing

[supremedesigner]

Different topic: Saw dell.com new "interim" website and it have poorly html function. Bah!

 

[dsnort]

Well go and tell that to Dell and their massive market share and we'll see if they take you seriously and change their marketing strategy.

Dell is already changing their market strategy. The whole idea behind their XPS line is that they want to get out of the "Walmart Mentality" approach to marketing. They find it hard on the margins. And wouldn't that more accurately be described as Dells "massive, shrinking, market share"?

Theres ideology and then theres reality, I suggest you take a trip into reality.

Wow, another person that thinks they are the only ones to see reality.

People may think Apple is innovative but so what? Most people buy whats cheap, not whats innovative, and since Dell isnt innovative in anything they do they can afford to be cheap. We have solid proof that innovation doesnt sell as well as affordability, what is there to argue about exactly?

I agree, it is definately a Walmart world. But I think I would hate to live in a world without innovators, after all, someone had to invent the toothbrush! And there are a lot of features on modern PC's that PC users are fond of that were not developed by "Bargain Basement" PC manufacturers. Stop and think what your computing experience would really be like if not for the innovators.

I think Apple is perfectly fine with having such a tiny market share especially since iPod is keeping them afloat (how many billions does Jobs need?

No corporation ever settles. Growth is one of the main objectives of all corporations. And by the way, how many billions does Michael Dell need? Or Bill Gates? Or Steve Bawl-mer? ( and that's not a typo )

.... but if Apple fans expect Apple to try and get more market share then they should expect them to lower their prices and offer things like Dell.

Yeah, that's what drove Yugo to dominance in the automobile industry. Oh, wait a minute....

 

[mandis]

I will try to ignore your fan-boyish attitude as I find it mindless and undermining of the quality of MacRumors.

the mac platform is still the choice for the creative class. you won't find more than a handful of print designers using windows. adobe/macromedia sales figures show just about 50/50. creative pros don't care one whit about upgradeability. final cut pro is absolutely devastating the film market right now, eating away at the market share of avid solutions. these are all factual and verifiable.

No it is not and I dare you to prove me wrong! The majority of the creative class uses pcs period. Software titles like Autocad, 3d Studio Max, Rhino etc. don’t even exist for the mac. Your claims sound pretty much like Apples marketing, which tends to be over the top and pretty damn unrealistic. Also by creative class I obviously mean people like architects, interior designers, furniture designers, and people of fine arts and music. I have no idea what you mean by “print designers”, perhaps you would care to clarify?

as for your anecdotal evidence of your friends switching back, i'm sure that has happened. i can anecdotally tell you two of my colleagues have switched recently, buying not one, but two laptops each (15" and 17"). thing is my anecdotal evidence is just as useless as yours, all that counts are cold hard numbers and 4.6 is greater than 3.2. clearly mac market share is on the rise.

You call my personal experience “anecdotal evidence”? Perhaps you need a course in the English language? I would be more than happy to arrange an interview for you at the university of Brighton where I teach in post grad architecture. You could do one of the English courses and learn what the word “anecdotal” really means. As for the legitimacy of my claims you would only need to pay a visit to the UB Art and Design campus to see what once was a computer pool of 120 PowerMacs be filled with 120 brand new Gateway pcs.

As for your "friends" who bought not one but many MB PROS, I’m sure they did. In fact, if they are one bit like you, they must buy every piece of kit apple throws out of the assembly line. It is not either your fault or theirs though. It is fan-boyism that dictates this behavior and mind you we're not having any of it in these forums.

 

[Blue Velvet]

No it is not and I dare you to prove me wrong! The majority of the creative class uses pcs period.

Wrong. Of course, sequestered in your teaching post-graduate architectural world you may not see the wood for the trees and in the readily-accepted use of the word, 'creatives' do not include those who use AutoCAD.

The design, print, packaging, promo, photographic and fashion industry is overwhelmingly Mac-based.

Saying 'period' at the end of a sentence doesn't make it correct. Nor does one campus switching to PCs make it a summer.

 

[dsnort]

No it is not and I dare you to prove me wrong!

How old are you?

The majority of the creative class uses pcs period. Software titles like Autocad, 3d Studio Max, Rhino etc. don’t even exist for the mac.

Not sure about 3d Studio or Rhino, but pretty sure Autocad is for engineers, not traditionally considered creative because engineering is bound by rules and laws of materials and physics, ( although some can be very original).

Your claims sound pretty much like Apples marketing, which tends to be over the top and pretty damn unrealistic.

Now who's being the fan-boy?

I have no idea what you mean by “print designers”, perhaps you would care to clarify?

Wow, you need to get out more!

You call my personal experience “anecdotal evidence”? Perhaps you need a course in the English language? I would be more than happy to arrange an interview for you at the university of Brighton where I teach in post grad architecture. You could do one of the English courses and learn what the word “anecdotal” really means.

What is the UB definition of anecdotal?? (As I silently crossing UB off of list of uni's kids might attend)

I could continue, but I weary of this. All in all a fairly poorly constructed argument. I am certain that UB has teachers more capable than this.

 

[mandis]

Wrong. Of course, sequestered in your teaching post-graduate architectural world you may not see the wood for the trees and in the readily-accepted use of the word, 'creatives' do not include those who use AutoCAD.

Wrong? Perhaps you are more informed in the fields of architecture and design and you could teach us a thing or two about what software to use.

The design, print, packaging, promo, photographic and fashion industry is overwhelmingly Mac-based.

Could you back that up with some numbers?

Saying 'period' at the end of a sentence doesn't make it correct. Nor does one campus switching to PCs make it a summer.

Do the words “personal” and “experience” mean anything to you? Just read my original post.

 

[Queso]

The design, print, packaging, promo, photographic and fashion industry is overwhelmingly Mac-based.

Can I add film, television production and public relations/advertising to that list?

 

[mandis]

How old are you?

29 and currently doing a PHD in Architectural design.

Not sure about 3d Studio or Rhino, but pretty sure Autocad is for engineers, not traditionally considered creative because engineering is bound by rules and laws of materials and physics, ( although some can be very original). .

You are obviously uninformed. Autocad is used by most Architects and Architectural practices in the world.

Now who's being the fan-boy?

You perhaps? Why else would you attempt to discredit my statement and me when you have no real facts to support your argument?

Wow, you need to get out more!

I’m getting out quite often actually. I only managed to reply to dashiel a week after his reply to my post. You on the other hand replied only an hour after mine.Don’t you have anything better to do?

What is the UB definition of anecdotal?? (As I silently crossing UB off of list of uni's kids might attend)

Forget Uni mate! Judging from your grammar, you probably need to go back to primary school.

I could continue, but I weary of this. All in all a fairly poorly constructed argument. I am certain that UB has teachers more capable than this.

LOL!! I knew it! Fan-boys actualy travel in herds!