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macrumors regular
Original poster
Dec 14, 2009
Las Vegas
Your best guess or opinion?

Thinking of getting another 2012, but I wonder if any of you have heard of any plans by Apple to end support on a future operating system (worried might be considered an old system by Mac now)?

Your thoughts, guests. opinions? My thought is that 2012 is one of the best systems built but if they are phasing out the OS, then why bother with getting a 2012 spare.



macrumors 6502
Aug 14, 2009
"My thought is that 2012 is one of the best systems built"

Having just moved on to a 2018 i7 from a 2012 i7 I can tell you that the 2018 is a better system by a long way.


macrumors 604
Oct 17, 2014
The 2014 refresh was a downgrade, but the 2018 is definitely better than the 2012 in a lot of ways. That being said, it's also nearly twice the price of a good used 2012.

Edit: The 2012 is supported by Catalina. After that, no one knows. But if Apple does drop support in 10.16, a successful workaround to install the unsupported version will be likely.
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macrumors member
Dec 11, 2018
No one other than apple knows those plans. The last OS for the 2012 can be 10.15 - Catalina, or it can be 10.16 or 17, etc. We only know for sure when a future OS is announced.
I understand your point on being one of the best built and I agree with you. From the RAM that is so so easy to upgrade, just open the cover and it's right there, to the hard drive that is also upgradable, although not easy. The 2018 isn't like that.


macrumors 65816
Dec 8, 2006
I have a 2014 i5 2.6 8gb ram. Very nice. Installed catalina bets. Runs great. Hardly beachballs. Maybe 1 to 2 seconds at the most if any. Not a downgrade in my opinion.


macrumors newbie
Jun 6, 2016
My Mac Mini late 2012 doesn't support unlock using Apple Watch due to outdated wifi. I tried Catalina Pubilc Beta 2 for a very short time but reverted back due to it slowing down the system badly, especially while listening to iTunes. But during that time I noticed that Sidecar is also not supported probably due to the same reason with wifi. But that's OK because Sidecar is meant for people on the go with Macbooks.

I really hope the final release will be more stable and useable. The 2012 mini is by far the best because I have 2 drives installed; a 480GB SSD and 2TB HDD.


macrumors 68000
Oct 31, 2006
2014 was definitely a downgrade from 2012. A really dumb move by Apple but I seem to recall that Intel’s CPU options also had something to do with it.
The quad core i7 2012 was a great Mac mini, but as others have said the 2018 now runs circles around it. To be expected.
However, if you want a low cost 2nd hand mini then the 2012 model is still a good choice IMO.


macrumors regular
Original poster
Dec 14, 2009
Las Vegas
I wouldn't buy a machine from 2012 today.

Well after much consideration and negotiation I bought another 2012, that has 8 gb RAM and I installed a 240 SSD that I already had. I have a new 480 gb SSD in reserve for future use.

The 2012 mini is near mint, and runs great, and my expense was $160 bucks. So it's great to have a second one available as a backup, just in case. I put Catalina 10.15 Beta, on it to try out the upcoming OS.

So for me it was a great move, and in time the price of the newest Mac mini will fall and I will move to that direction at some point.

Thanks to all for your input.
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macrumors 6502a
Dec 31, 2012
The Mac Mini 2012 was still sold into 2014. Apple usually supports the Mac hardware with new MacOS updates five years after the last year it was available as a most current model. This would mean 2019 and Catalina will probably be the last new MacOS update for the 2012 Mini. There will be two years of critical security update support after the next MacOS release in 2020 which would mean an EOL for any potential MacOS updates for the 2012 Mini by the Fall of 2022.
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