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Grateful for the upgrades and very happy they kept this around. But if any of the announced machines were going to be more user upgradeable it should have been this one. People love being able to upgrade their 2012 machines - it’s one of the reasons they are still kicking and people have loved them for so long (that and a quad core). With such an unchanged form factor it’s too bad they didn’t keep that very welcome “feature”.

People like to tinker. People want to tinker. People like the option to fix stuff on their own. Some devices I understand locking down, but this isn’t one of them.
If you want to tinker with your computer, go to Newegg and start building.

If you want to USE your computer, buy a Mac.
 
Would of been nice if the system could support 2 of the LG 5K screens that Apple sells... I guess that will be the next update next year?? Otherwise nice system.
 
These reviewers have not idea what is a CPU, TDP, Power, Frequency, Speed, Real Performance etc...
Apple sent its toys to these false reviewers. The real power users will test these machines.
 
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So stick 2 TB on it.

Or pull a $100 out of your pocket and add any one of a number of 4TB (or larger) spinning rust externals.

It's a DESKTOP computer with a PILE of REALLY FAST I/O. Not everything has to be inside the box.

You know at that price point 128GB of non-removable storage is really hard to justify no matter how many ports is on the back.
 
Pretty bad, I don't understand why going with desktop-glass CPUs matters if we're stuck with lousy UHD 630 graphics and proprietary SSDs.

Not a far cry from the last gen with soldered-everything, which I skipped, but getting serviable RAM slots back doesn't make up for the rest of the cheap shots Apple is pulling.
 
in the last month they design a Mac update just to make everybody calm down.
It takes nearly half a YEAR to go through all the Agency Approvals in ALL the countries and get all the logistics and supply-lines and internal sign-offs on case-design, anodizing color, etc etc ET CETERA.

If you'd ever designed an electronic product, like I have, you'd know this.

It's a LOT more than just throwing together a schematic and PCB layout and calling it a day.

A LOT.
 
That's always been Apple. Steve Jobs did not want people opening up Macs. He viewed computers as appliances. How many people open up their microwave to upgrade parts? I'm not one to trot out "Steve Jobs..." but the Mac Mini's limited upgradability by users is in line with Apple's design philosophy for 40 years (minus some of the years post- and pre-Steve Jobs).
Quit making excuses for Apple. I've been building computers for years as well as tens of millions around the world and contrary to popular beliefs it's pretty damn easy. The only time it's not so easy is when the computer mfg decides to use proprietary parts and designs the device in such a way that only the mfg can service it. Prior to 2014, the Mini was fairly easy to replace the RAM and HDD.
 
Which is why I was hoping for a refreshed model. Still, a Vega with HBM would have been worth the trade, IMO.
Probably would have been more expensive too.
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Quit making excuses for Apple. I've been building computers for years as well as tens of millions around the world and contrary to popular beliefs it's pretty damn easy. The only time it's not so easy is when the computer mfg decides to use proprietary parts and designs the device in such a way that only the mfg can service it. Prior to 2014, the Mini was fairly easy to replace the RAM and HDD.
Same here - and I‘m a fan of the proprietary, well-functioning parts. YMMV.
 
$800 for an upgrade to 1TB storage, when I can buy an SSD for $150. Wow. That's impressive markup, even for apple. And the tax to upgrade from the silly base RAM is $200 instead of $100. It's not like a laptop where they could argue they need custom storage for the form factor. So to replace my 5yo iMac it would cost almost $2K. This really is an effort in seeing exactly how much people are willing to pay for Apple.
I don't know about the SSD pricing, since I don't know all the specs (which matter a LOT!); but when it comes to the RAM, Apple is really NOT gouging.

16GB of SODIMM 2666 DDR4 RAM from Crucial is $142. Apple charges $200. Yes, there's a markup; but it's not a huge one.
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Go with the i5 because (unlike the i7) it doesn't have hyper-threading, which is a huge security risk.
If the attacker has physical access, and you are working on state secrets, you might have something to worry about.
 
The ports are different, and versatile. Like the iMac Pro, the Mac minirecognizes that it’s useful to offer both USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 and USB-A ports. There are four of those Thunderbolt 3 ports, two classic USB-A ports, HDMI, a headphone jack, and Ethernet—Gigabit by default, with up to 10Gb Nbase-T Ethernet available as a $100 option.

Funny that Apple would add this flexibility to a device intended to sit, next to which parking a USB hub would be perfectly fine, while hamstringing portable MB's and iPhones to an anorexic set of ever-reducing ports.
 
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These reviewers have not idea what is a CPU, TDP, Power, Frequency, Speed, Real Performance etc...
Apple sent its toys to these false reviewers. The real power users will test these machines.
Okay, and Mac Mini is only for real power users who are utilizing the CPU 100 % all of the time? What do you want to see reviewed?
 
Apple puts in one of the lowest rated Intel graphics in. This should have at minimum the Intel Iris Pro graphics.
For the price they are charging and after the 4 year wait, they could of easily done this. This shows what Apples think of their customer, no respect.
 
Apple puts in one of the lowest rated Intel graphics in. This should have at minimum the Intel Iris Pro graphics.
For the price they are charging and after the 4 year wait, they could of easily done this. This shows what Apples think of their customer, no respect.
Or they just used the cooling capacities for the best CPU they could possibly fit in there, and if anyone really needs (not just wants!) the additional GPU power, that‘s what TB3 is here for. Hence the „Mac Mini Pro“ nickname.
 
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I was between oil and water on either the Mac mini or a better specd HP Omen for same price. Ill wait until fixit reviews how easy it is to access the RAM and possibly SSD (IPC-cert solder) and decide. The integrated GPU (understandable to size) is still disappointing which would easily add another $500 for decent GTX with enclosure


Same boat here. For me it's either Mini or Alienware R7 with 1080 graphic card.
 
the 128G starting storage is not forgivable.

Could not agree more. That said lets us understand that this not really an option but a method to force you to upgrade to more storage and spend more money.

This is the same thing the do with iOS devices and it is worse on iOS devices because the storage option that most people would choose is not an option.....as in maybe 64gig will be tight so 128gig would be perfect but you have to go to 256gig. This BS has been going on since the iPhone came out. When we got 16gig as the base, 32gig was not an option. When 32gig was the base, 64gig was not a option.
 
I’m getting one for my son in middle school but damn I was hoping to pay less than $800 for the base model or at least with 16gb RAM/256gb storage.
On top of that getting the peripherals (display, mouse & keyboard) together to make this running.
Apple should have a cheaper entry point for students/parents to bring these kids into the ecosystem.
 
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