Mac Mini 2018, slow wakeup from sleep?

[MrDoh]

It takes my new Mac Mini about 15 seconds to wake up from sleep. Since I'm used to almost instant wakeup on other OS's, I've been looking into this. What I've tried:
1. Set hibernatemode to 0 (was 3), supposed to be the default for a desktop. Did not help.
2. Used safe boot to look at behavior there, no difference.
3. Reset SMC. No difference.
After a lot of looking around and not finding anything helpful, decided to turn off sleep by setting "sleep" to 0 using pmset. This speeds up wake up to a large degree, takes about 3 seconds to wake up the monitor, but I want the computer to be able to sleep for energy conservation if nothing else. And it should by all rights, be able to wake up from sleep quickly.

A little information...this Mac Mini is the i7-based one, with 8GB of memory and 256GB SSD. Along with a 500GB external SSD. OS version is 10.14.4. The monitor is connected via a Thunderbolt to minidisplayport cable. Nothing exotic, pretty much vanilla hardware and software configuration. Got no idea what's taking all the time for wakeup, since the computer is otherwise lightning fast.

Any suggestions from those that have more experience with the OS? Would really like this to work as it should, but haven't found the right setting(s) yet.

Thanks!

 

[MrDoh]

I'm keeping my eyes open on this one, but it looks like not allowing sleep is the short-term answer for me. That 3 second wakeup is pretty nice after waiting 5 times that long too many times.

 

[Spectrum]

By slow to wake, do you mean after typing in password? Or slow to even bring up the password in order to unlock?
I find my 2018 is also slower than I would like. But this is after typing password.

 

[MrDoh]

I don't require a password to unlock my desktop, so no lock screen *smile*. I mean the computer is asleep and monitor is black, so the time between clicking a mouse button and the monitor lighting up. If I required a password, it would be the time between clicking a mouse button and bringing up the lock screen so I could enter my password.

 

[Fishrrman]

MrDOH wrote:
"I'm keeping my eyes open on this one, but it looks like not allowing sleep is the short-term answer for me."

That IS "the answer".
There's no need to "sleep" a 2018 Mini.
There's next-to-no difference in energy consumption between a "sleeping Mini" and one that's "awake, at idle". 2-3 watts per hour at most.

Just set computer sleep to "never" in energy saver,
and then...
Set your DISPLAY to sleep after a specified amount of time.

Personal experience:
When I walk away from my Mini for more than an hour or so, I usually just reach forward and TURN OFF the display.

When I come back, I press the power-on button for the display and click the mouse button. The Mini responds almost immediately with a request for my password (I've set mine to require a password if the display has been "asleep" for more than an hour).

 

[MrDoh]

MrDOH wrote:
"I'm keeping my eyes open on this one, but it looks like not allowing sleep is the short-term answer for me."

That IS "the answer".
There's no need to "sleep" a 2018 Mini.
There's next-to-no difference in energy consumption between a "sleeping Mini" and one that's "awake, at idle". 2-3 watts per hour at most.

Thanks for the reply...guess I won't be looking that hard for other answers, then *smile*. Didn't know that these got that quiescent simply not being used. Makes sense, though, computers have been heading that way (less power, faster cpu's and memory, and SSD's instead of rotating disks) for a long time now. My monitor does go to sleep after about 10 minutes, no problem. And I like the quick wakeup without sleep. So things are fine for the time being.

I did find this, though:

https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/desktops/Macmini_PER_oct2018.pdf

that indicates that a sleeping mac mini uses about 1 watt, as opposed to an idle one that uses about 10 watts. So there really is a difference. 10 watts still isn't much, though. We have solar panels and are making a lot more electricity than that in an hour *smile*.

 

[Yuck9]

MrDOH wrote:
"I'm keeping my eyes open on this one, but it looks like not allowing sleep is the short-term answer for me."

That IS "the answer".
There's no need to "sleep" a 2018 Mini.
There's next-to-no difference in energy consumption between a "sleeping Mini" and one that's "awake, at idle". 2-3 watts per hour at most.

Just set computer sleep to "never" in energy saver,
and then...
Set your DISPLAY to sleep after a specified amount of time.

Personal experience:
When I walk away from my Mini for more than an hour or so, I usually just reach forward and TURN OFF the display.

When I come back, I press the power-on button for the display and click the mouse button. The Mini responds almost immediately with a request for my password (I've set mine to require a password if the display has been "asleep" for more than an hour).

Not the intended way for power saver to work. So if the machine won't work as intended we are to come up with some band-aid fix to work around this problem. Sorry not going to happen.  needs to fix it. Quit making excuses for them.

 

[MrDoh]

Not the intended way for power saver to work. So if the machine won't work as intended we are to come up with some band-aid fix to work around this problem. Sorry not going to happen.  needs to fix it. Quit making excuses for them.

Well, something happened and now it only takes about 3 seconds to wake from sleep. I'm fine with that. I do the same thing, though, turning off the monitor at night. And waking the system from sleep in the morning. Seems to be working well for me at the moment.

 

[madrag]

I can confirm that my MM2018 consumes an average of 1.3 W/h when sleeping (I measured it with a tester), and about 9.2 W/h when idle, so it does make a difference when you leave it on all the time. It may be convenient but it is not the answer.

The answer should be an update from Apple to fix this, I can relate because I'm experiencing the same issue, which didn't happen on the MM2012.

 

[strawbale]

It takes my new Mac Mini about 15 seconds to wake up from sleep. Since I'm used to almost instant wakeup on other OS's, I've been looking into this. What I've tried:
1. Set hibernatemode to 0 (was 3), supposed to be the default for a desktop. Did not help.
2. Used safe boot to look at behavior there, no difference.
3. Reset SMC. No difference.
After a lot of looking around and not finding anything helpful, decided to turn off sleep by setting "sleep" to 0 using pmset. This speeds up wake up to a large degree, takes about 3 seconds to wake up the monitor, but I want the computer to be able to sleep for energy conservation if nothing else. And it should by all rights, be able to wake up from sleep quickly.

A little information...this Mac Mini is the i7-based one, with 8GB of memory and 256GB SSD. Along with a 500GB external SSD. OS version is 10.14.4. The monitor is connected via a Thunderbolt to minidisplayport cable. Nothing exotic, pretty much vanilla hardware and software configuration. Got no idea what's taking all the time for wakeup, since the computer is otherwise lightning fast.

Any suggestions from those that have more experience with the OS? Would really like this to work as it should, but haven't found the right setting(s) yet.

Thanks!

I prefer to minimize energy consumption too and found the (up to) 15 sec (from keystroke) to wake up (too) long as well. My 'solution': press the MM's power button for a split second => wake up within a few seconds

 

[madrag]

(...) My 'solution': press the MM's power button for a split second => wake up within a few seconds

I just tried that but it didn't work for me, I had the same delay as the one when waking the Mac with a keystroke.

 

[Macak]

Same issues here. 15 to 20 seconds before seeing something on monitor (from sleep mode). Pretty annoying.

 

[Fozziebear40]

An old thread but I have 2 Mac Mini 2018's, an i3 and i5. The i3 wakes up in a second from touching the keyboard. The i5 you have a 15 second delay before the monitors come on. Both identical software updates, keyboards etc. Weird.

 

[weaztek]

Unscientific observation: my PowerPC Macs used to wake up from sleep almost instantly from what I remember. My intel Macs always seemed very slow compared to them.

 

[Yuck9]

Noticed it from day one.  QA at it's best.