Mac mini display problems

[mini5apple]

Hi,

Recently bought a mc mini however connecting it to a new LG hd 24" monitor using hdmi is causing sever eye pain also connecting to other older monitors using different resolutions that work on windows machines fine cause even worse pain

Does mac mini need a 4k minimum screen resolution or is this a faulty mac?

thanks in advance

 

[boswald]

I use my mini with a 1080p display and experience no pain. Have you thought about getting your eyes checked?

 

[mini5apple]

I use my mini with a 1080p display and experience no pain. Have you thought about getting your eyes checked?

i've used a lenovo g500 laptop for the last 2 years without any of the same symptoms? i dont need glasses.

The mac mini either is faulty or needs a 4k minimum screen?

The screen i have connected is the LG hd 24" ips neo blade iii,

people have won lawsuits for less trauma than what this has caused to my eye health

Apple?

 

[Lucid_Icarus]

I drive a 720p monitor with my 2018 mini and it works fine, and I never experience any eye pain or strain. Definitely doesn’t require a 4K monitor.

If you feel strongly enough that it might be faulty, return it and buy another one. Or, like bjoswald said, maybe it’s time for an eye check up.

 

[mini5apple]

I drive a 720p monitor with my 2018 mini and it works fine, and I never experience any eye pain or strain. Definitely doesn’t require a 4K monitor.

If you feel strongly enough that it might be faulty, return it and buy another one. Or, like bjoswald said, maybe it’s time for an eye check up.

this is the 2020 model still with warranty

 

[Lucid_Icarus]

this is the 2020 model still with warranty

My comment still stands, if it’s new enough to return then return it, have Apple take a look at it to see if it’s not working properly, or live with it and get your eyes checked. You shouldn’t be in physical pain using a product, and others have confirmed that what You are trying to do should work fine. That’s what I’d do, then pop back and let us know how it goes.

As an aside, have you tried any troubleshooting for this issue? If you’re dead set that the mini is not working properly, try it on another monitor that isn’t 4K and see if your eyes hurt. Maybe the monitor is causing issues with how it’s displaying the mini. Just a thought.

 

[mini5apple]

My comment still stands, if it’s new enough to return then return it, have Apple take a look at it to see if it’s not working properly, or live with it and get your eyes checked. You shouldn’t be in physical pain using a product, and others have confirmed that what You are trying to do should work fine. That’s what I’d do, then pop back and let us know how it goes.

As an aside, have you tried any troubleshooting for this issue? If you’re dead set that the mini is not working properly, try it on another monitor that isn’t 4K and see if your eyes hurt. Maybe the monitor is causing issues with how it’s displaying the mini. Just a thought.

i can use my iphone & a lenovo 15" laptop g500 with no eye pain,

its not the first thread ive encountered on the internet regarding apple's scaled resolutions causing problems

maybe i've bought a bad apple lol

i should add using the duet app connected to my ipad 4 mini provides a much more pleasing viewing experience, possibly because of the pixel density to size ratio? hmmm i smell a rat (rotten apple)

 

[Lucid_Icarus]

i can use my iphone & a lenovo 15" laptop g500 with no eye pain,

its not the first thread ive encountered on the internet regarding apple's scaled resolutions causing problems

maybe i've bought a bad apple lol

smells like r/iamverysmart in here. If you think it’s a “bad apple” then return it and close the thread. You asked for advice on if 4K is the minimum screen resolution, and you’ve been told by two different people that the 2020 mini can drive a 1080p monitor and a 720p monitor with no issues or eye strain from the users.

Maybe I just have better eyes than you and you’re getting old? /s

 

[mini5apple]

smells like r/iamverysmart in here. If you think it’s a “bad apple” then return it and close the thread. You asked for advice on if 4K is the minimum screen resolution, and you’ve been told by two different people that the 2020 mini can drive a 1080p monitor and a 720p monitor with no issues or eye strain from the users.

Maybe I just have better eyes than you and you’re getting old? /s

i need something thats slightly portable that also doesn't ramp the fans up when ever its switched on,

i've already returned a specced out 13" 2019 macbook pro that was indeed a nice machine however the fans spinning while surfing google/youtube wasnt worth the £2500 price tag

The posted replies never stated the dimensions of the 1080 or 720 screens, try googling a cheap mac mini monitor all the results lead to 4k

i'm not here to argue about this, i just believe the incorrect monitors should not be allowed to screen the osx if its going to cause health issues

maybe this is a faulty mac mini or catalina bug?

I'm waiting for a call from apple representatives to hopefully resolve this situation

 

[DaveSanDiego]

well it sounds to ME, as if arguing about it is what is driving this conversation.

My 2cents... I have a recent model macMini and it is driving TWO Del 1080p monitors and it works perfectly fine.

So as stated by others... it is either YOUR, or its your mac.....

 

[MevetS]

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Does mac mini need a 4k minimum screen resolution ... ?

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No, it does not.

As several people in this thread have noted. I myself run multiple displays at a less than 4K resolution with no issues what so ever.

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... is this a faulty mac?

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Maybe. Take it to an Apple Store or to the dealer where you bought it and have it checked out.

Also consider your set up. How far is the monitor from your sitting position? How is the brightness set? What resolution is set in System Preferences? How is the other lighting in the room where you use it? Using a phone and a laptop are different as they are easily moved to a comfortable position, while some care must be taken when setting up a stationary display.

If the machine is still under warranty then take it back and get it checked out. Take the painful monitor with you. Try a 4K monitor at the store.

And if it really is causing you pain, then send it back and use something else. Your Windows laptop for instance. As the old joke goes: "Doc, it hurts when I do this." Doc, "Then don't do that."

Good luck and I hope you get it sorted.

 

[mini5apple]

No, it does not.

As several people in this thread have noted. I myself run multiple displays at a less than 4K resolution with no issues what so ever.



Maybe. Take it to an Apple Store or to the dealer where you bought it and have it checked out.

Also consider your set up. How far is the monitor from your sitting position? How is the brightness set? What resolution is set in System Preferences? How is the other lighting in the room where you use it? Using a phone and a laptop are different as they are easily moved to a comfortable position, while some care must be taken when setting up a stationary display.

If the machine is still under warranty then take it back and get it checked out. Take the painful monitor with you. Try a 4K monitor at the store.

And if it really is causing you pain, then send it back and use something else. Your Windows laptop for instance. As the old joke goes: "Doc, it hurts when I do this." Doc, "Then don't do that."

Good luck and I hope you get it sorted.

i agree connecting this to a 21" 4k monitor would be helpfull to determine if this truly is a pixel density problem

As if currently stands the mac mini is somewhat "NOT" fit for purpose

 

[Fishrrman]

Change the cable.
Change the connection scheme (if you're connected to the display's HDMI, try displayport instead).
Change the display.

 

[mini5apple]

I've just got back from apple store,there is no fix.

1080p on a 24" look ok at a glance using mac mini

however if your about to use a mac mini for audio/ none graphical work etc please be aware that 1080p will look fine but the eye fatigue isnt worth it after a few hours.


Please dont listen to the lies on the internet stating 1080 is enough,sadly its not.

mac mini plus a 4k monitor costs more than imac

buy the imac or macbook

better yet use a ipad/iphone instead to video edit/web search etc

apple have coded UHD/4k screens as minimum for usability on mac

thanks again apple for the heads up, buy a mac mini they said use any monitor they said

p.s cheap hd windows laptops dont cause eye fatigue even with pixelated text/content

 

[TechRunner]

Sadly, people's tolerance for different screen resolutions varies, so while this might be your experience (and I feel for you), it doesn't necessarily pertain to all.

Good luck putting together a system that works for you...

 

[BrianBaughn]

Probably depends on the monitor, also.

 

[boswald]

Depends on the monitor. I have a 1080p Samsung monitor connected to my Mac mini and it’s fine. I prefer 4K, but it’s just too expensive.

 

[Audit13]

I use an NEC 1080 monitor that's quite old and works fine for me.

 

[Heelpir8]

You should try running on a 25" monitor at 1440p like I do with my 2012 Mini. It's quite nice. Can't imagine 1080p looking very good on any 24" monitor.

 

[mini5apple]

You should try running on a 25" monitor at 1440p like I do with my 2012 Mini. It's quite nice. Can't imagine 1080p looking very good on any 24" monitor.

i agree only 20odd days to late,if i'd have known that 1080 wasnt enough i'd have bought the imac or macbook now i feel this company is corrupt

i also run a 15.6 hd portable monitor that looks sharper however still causes premature fatigue

 

[watakoola]

Please dont listen to the lies on the internet stating 1080 is enough,sadly its not.

Ex-Graphic Designer here. I have no issues with 1280 on a 24-inch display. Just because YOU don't like something doesn't make it a 'fact'. There are a huge number of variables as to 'why' someone may not like a monitor or find it causes them eye fatigue.

Just find something that suits YOU.

 

[mini5apple]

Ex-Graphic Designer here. I have no issues with 1280 on a 24-inch display. Just because YOU don't like something doesn't make it a 'fact'. There are a huge number of variables as to 'why' someone may not like a monitor or find it causes them eye fatigue.

Just find something that suits YOU.

The apple store "technician" couldn't install me HIDPI resolutions using terminal? why?


the original os that shipped with my mac had HIDPI installed until i re-installed a new fresh OSX prior to returning the mac mini.


ive had to purchase "quickres" it looks marginally better on a 1080p 24" LG monitor.


For 10+ years i've used cheap windows laptops with obvious pixilated text with no fatigue whatsoever

"Ex-Graphic Designer" you have no issues using a 2020 mac mini?


its basic bread & butter computing stating your Ex-graphical means nothing tbh this product should work out the box or have a pre-warning.

the huge number of variables is not an excuse for a company to sell a product that causes health issues.
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You should try running on a 25" monitor at 1440p like I do with my 2012 Mini. It's quite nice. Can't imagine 1080p looking very good on any 24" monitor.

I agree however pixilated text should not cause pain to the eyes

it should look pixilated like the computers we have used the last 20+ years

this thread is regarding a 2020 mac mini

 

[watakoola]

"Ex-Graphic Designer" you have no issues using a 2020 mac mini?

I have issues with my eGPU. But with the quality of the displays I have no problem.

Ex-graphical means nothing tbh

Sure. No prob. Don't bother listening to me. I know nothing about such things...

the huge number of variables is not an excuse for a company to sell a product that causes health issues.

Well, with that attitude you could sue every company which makes any product.

 

[mini5apple]

I have issues with my eGPU. But with the quality of the displays I have no problem.


Sure. No prob. Don't bother listening to me. I know nothing about such things...


Well, with that attitude you could sue every company which makes any product.

I just hope other would be purchasers dont follow this mac mini 1080p path,

i'll sell this mac mini on fleabay, 100% wont buy another apple mac

maybe i could sell it as a used paper weight?

 

[B74A]

Working workaround:

Fairly new Mac Mini, and our only display is a 2019 Samsun 50" TV.

The TV says "No Signal" whether using a HDMI cable from the HDMI port, or the USB-3 to HDMI cable.

I found one way to make it work:

1. Make sure Mac Mini is switched off
2. Turn the TV on, and select another HDMI port (whether there's a signal or not, doesn't matter)
3. Click the Source button on the TV remote control, and arrow to the side to highlight the HDMI port number where the Mac Mini is connected to
4. Click the "enter" button on the remote, to select that HDMI port number, while simultaneously switching the Mac Mini on.

When doing this, all is fine - the picture comes on as it should.

Anything else I do, any combination of cable I try, doesn't work. But this seems to consistently work.

My guess is that the Mac Mini is looking for an HDMI when it's starting, as the TV is looking for an HDMI source when you select that input. They apparently only do that for a few seconds (maybe 10 seconds?), and if they don't do it at the same time - no picture. The TV will say "no signal" and give up. The Mac Mini will say "No HDMI connected", and also give up.

Not ideal, but at least I have found a consistent way to make it work.

Anyone else with HDMI problems on a Mac Mini, please try this procedure and see if it works. If it works to fix this, Apple and/or Samsung should be able to "meet somewhere in the middle" and make a permanent fix for this problem. One more guess: They will both blame the other party for not conforming to whatever standards rule HDMI ...