Mac Mini G4

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  1. L Oquence macrumors regular

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    Just won an auction on a mac Mini G4, and my plan is to use it as a file and backup server, should I expect any complications in doing so?
     
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    It might be slightly slower than an Intel Mac mini due to the 10/100 BASE-T Ethernet port, but otherwise as a file server it should work fine.
     
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    Use external drives (if that's the route you go) that are FireWire, much faster than USB :)
     
  5. Intell macrumors P6

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    FireWire 400 is only a few megabytes per second faster than USB 2. You'd be limited by the T-100 Ethernet before the USB 2 bus.
     
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    The mini has two USB ports if I recall :) doesn't do much good if you are using a keyboard/mouse that aren't the apple set, and a hub is just more crap to own.
     
  7. L Oquence thread starter macrumors regular

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    for the most part i doubt ill have a keyboard and mouse plugged into it,
     
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    While the Mini does have two USB ports, the bandwidth is indeed limited by the network interface. If it is a simple file server then OP may just run it headless without a keyboard, mouse, or monitor and simply use SSH and other remote protocols for administration.

    That being said, for all file transfers across drives locally, FireWire would indeed be faster!
     
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    Indeed. Make use of the mini's limited array of ports!
     
  10. Altemose macrumors G3

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    Indeed. It is quite a shame that the G4 era of Mini's were crippled by limited USB ports, 10/100 Ethernet, and a single G4 processor.
     
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    I wouldn't think a GPU would matter for a file server, quickly glancing at it to see if it's running fine. For using it as a main or something of the sort, then definitely it would be a contributing factor.
     
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    My comment was directed towards the list that Altemose comprised outlining the G4 Mac Mini's weak points, not whether or not they make good servers.
     
  14. L Oquence thread starter macrumors regular

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    The gpu on these is a shame, sad to say. However for basic computing or a small file server that shouldn't be an issue is presume.
     
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    Oh ok... That makes more sense. I don't own one, so I'm not sure just how bad they are inside these computers. After all, they were supposed to be the cheap Mac.
     
  16. redheeler macrumors 603

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    That being said, for a file server (or almost any task) a first-gen Intel Mac mini would be better due to the 1000 BASE-T Ethernet port and superior CPU/GPU. However, as a file server the G4 mini should work fine as long as you're fine with the speeds being limited by the Ethernet port.
     
  17. L Oquence thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yeah but i can't justify the price jump for what amounts to something I use as a back up-back up (the "plan c/3rd back up") to my g5, as well as extra storage for files i don't use anymore.
     
  18. poiihy macrumors 68020

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    Heh... A Raspberry Pi would be so much better than a G4 Mini for this task... for around the same price :p
     
  19. Surrat macrumors 6502

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    Poiihy, this is a powermac forum, nobody cares how fast or slow a raspberry pi is.
     
  20. poiihy macrumors 68020

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    So??? :confused:
    I was comparing a Pi to a Mini G4. I'm not pushing the Pi, i'm saying that the Pi beats the mini and it's so much smaller.
     
  21. weckart macrumors 68040

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    It doesn't. Also 10/100 and it does not run any form of OSX.
     
  22. poiihy macrumors 68020

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    The Pi has a 10/100 port just like the Mini?
    Huh...

    It does not matter what OS it runs; any OS will work as a file server.


    But if the Pi has the same 100Mbit/s ethernet port like the mini then... It isn't better.
     
  23. weckart macrumors 68040

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    For an Apple file server you will want Time Machine support as a minimum. Good luck with getting that to work smoothly. If you don't mind recompiling and debugging constantly then you CAN get AFP shares to work, otherwise the slower SMB is your lot.

    Not better than a Mac Mini, in other words.
     
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    To add to that, I'll just say that Leopard Server makes remote time machine backups a piece of cake.

    I have a designated 1TB time machine drive in my Xserve. The first time I power on a computer with Leopard with the server on line, "the magic happens" and it sets everything up automatically.

    As I said, the $90 I paid for a copy of Leopard Server was worth every penny of it.
     
  25. poiihy macrumors 68020

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    Didn't know this would be used for Time Machine. Well now I know a Mini is better than a Pi.

    What's the difference between Leopard Server and Leopard? What's in Leopard Server that makes it so expensive? :confused:
     

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