Mac Mini - Is it good enough ?

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  1. Tatsuya Nakadai macrumors newbie

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    Hi all, I'm on the fence of buying a new Mac, but came with the thought that a Mac Mini could be well enough for my needs. First I wanted a Mac Pro since I have 4000
     
  2. miles01110 macrumors Core

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    Since you don't list your uses nobody can answer your question. However, since you are asking in the first place a Mac Mini will probably be fine. All modern computers can handle facebook and listening to music.
     
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    Is it [Mini] good enough.... for what?

    There is a vast difference in a Mini compared to a Pro. What do you intend on using this Mac for? That answer will lead you to the right product.

    Unless you're a super power user type and are into heavy video editing, the Mini will suffice 99% of your needs and leave you will a lot of extra cash in your wallet.
     
  4. maril1111 macrumors 68000

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    I think the mini will suit you just fine for the tasks u listed... :rolleyes:
     
  5. Tatsuya Nakadai thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Sorry, most of my post has been erased for whatever reason ^^

    I'm not sure I want to go through the writing again, since it was a bit long... But well, I'll sum up:

    I want to buy a Mac Mini with Cinema Display and thunderbolt NAS, and I wonder if it is enough for my needs, that is WebDesign and very little 3D graphics.

    I was thinking about that since my next upgrade would be only a new Mac Mini, all my Data and my accessories being already here.

    So I wonder if Mac Mini's are good enough and how the graphic chipset can handle my tasks. 256 mb is small ^^

    Oh, and I'm working mostly with Adobe suite: Flash, Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver...

    Thanks

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  6. miles01110 macrumors Core

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    Flash isn't going to run well in the first place. For the rest of those things the Mini should be fine.
     
  7. Tatsuya Nakadai thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Flash is my main activity, so if the mini can't handle it, it's not a good idea!

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  8. miles01110 macrumors Core

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    Have you ever used Flash on a Mac before? If so, you shouldn't be surprised. If not, you should be looking into a Windows machine for Flash development.
     
  9. Tatsuya Nakadai thread starter macrumors newbie

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    As a matter of fact I have and actually my late 2006 iMac has handled the task pretty well. But no more iMac for m now, so looking for alternatives, and definitely Mac ones :)

    Maybe a 17" Macbook pro would be better ?


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  10. steve333 macrumors 6502a

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    Whatever you do make sure you buy the $799 Model. My old Mini had the built in graphics and I got a spinning ball trying to watch youtube clips half the time. My new Mini handles it without a problem.
     
  11. blunti macrumors 6502a

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    Out of 4k you could buy the 2.8 westmere (single proc) from the refurb store, add a 3.33 hex to it for 600ish so it could come out to a total of around $3k

    so you have $1k left to spend it on w/e you want...

    detailed installation instruction on the cpu swap can be found in the MP section.
     
  12. Tatsuya Nakadai thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. So building Flash content from within a Mini, even with a 256 mb gfx card, should be more than a hassle effectively! Thanks for the info :)


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  13. Tatsuya Nakadai thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Unfortunately I live in France and finding a refurbushed Westmere Mac Pro is more than unlikely, except for a 5000 euro one.
     
  14. steve333 macrumors 6502a

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    No, I think the Model with the discrete graphics card can handle it just fine.
    I was saying not to get the base model, which shares graphics memory with the system memory.
     
  15. Tatsuya Nakadai thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Ok, so a Mac Mini could be a good idea... Is it possible to change the gfx chipset when buying the most expensive one ? Or is it welded to the MB ?

    And do you think that the 27" Cinema Display is worth the money, or are there cheaper equivalent ? What kind of video out does the mac mini have except thunderbolt ? DVI ?

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  16. InuNacho macrumors 65816

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    Whatever Mac you get make sure to stick Windows on it unless you're fine with flash stuff being at half speed and using up half your computer's processing power.
     
  17. Tatsuya Nakadai thread starter macrumors newbie

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    On which experience is your statement based ? Do you use Adobe Flash (the creating app) on a mac ? Or is it from your experience while surfing the web ? Cause again, even my late 2006 iMac handles Flash pretty well for its age!


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    If you think a late 2006 Mac is ok (not going to disagree, I'm on a 2007 MB myself atm) I have a hard time imagining even the base Mini not satisfying you. But 2GB RAM really is ridiculously low so if it's to be a main computer you might as well get the more upgraded version to begin with.
     
  19. steve333 macrumors 6502a

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    The graphics card can't be changed as far as I know.
    I wouldn't past 1 grand for a display personally. I have a Samsung
    Not sure about the video out
     
  20. The-Pro macrumors 65816

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    Mac mini has thunderbolt (via adapters to DVI, VGA und Dual Link DVI(up to 2560x1600)) and it has a HDMI port (up to 1920x1200)
     
  21. ditzy macrumors 68000

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    You said that you wouldn't be buying an iMac, I wondered why? It seems to meet your needs.
     
  22. Tatsuya Nakadai thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks @The_Pro. So when connecting through DVI adapter the TB port is not available ?

    @Ditzy: Mainly because it is all *in one, and I don't like glossy screens. If I want to change computer I need to change the whole set. Also dust interfers between the screen and the leds. I know that because of my actual iMac and it is very annoying. It just mess up the colors and the visibility !

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  23. The-Pro macrumors 65816

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    If you get an Apple thunderbolt display then you will have an extra thunderbolt port on the screen for daisy chaining. If you plug in a different screen with the adapter into the mac mini then you will not have the thunderbolt port available.
    What im not sure about is if you have a thunderbolt storage device which has a thunderbolt port for daisy chaining can be used to connect the screen to. It would be connected as follows: Mac Mini ---> TB storage ---> DVI adapter with screen. Logically it should work, maybe someone else knows.
     
  24. MacHamster68 macrumors 68040

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    a real alternative to the overpriced Mac's if you want to run OSX
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    sorry their website is in German and their PearC's are Made in Germany and sold for a fair price
     
  25. iSee, Sep 25, 2011
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    Regarding doing Flash authoring on a Mini, I think there is some bad advice in this thread.

    I've done heavy flash work on much less capable Macs.

    The RAM in the base Mini is too low at 2GB. You must upgrade to 4GB.

    If I were you, I would get the higher level Mini which includes 4GB RAM, faster CPU, and discrete GPU.

    Note: as far as I can tell, the Flash authoring app won't take advantage of a discrete GPU. The Flash player can -- if all the stars align! -- but the current gen mini can play back anything even vaguely reasonable with or without it.

    Regarding the Apple thunderbolt display, go see one in person before you buy one. If you didn't like the glossy iMac screen, you may not like the thunderbolt display either because they are glossy as well. There are different levels of glossy, though, so you might still take a look in person if you can. It's still hard to tell because you really want to see it in your work environment, not in a store... but it's still worth it to see it for yourself.

    By the way: I like your idea of using the Mini as an upgradeable part in your setup. You can afford to upgrade on every revision if you want/need to. (If this is how you make your living and you do time sensitive work (who doesn't?), I'd actually keep one older mini as a backup when you upgrade.)
     

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