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I see but again, in that virtual machine all i do is connect to remote computer, nothing else is being done..
What client/protocol are you using to connect to the remote computer, and are you sure there's no Mac version of it?
 
What client/protocol are you using to connect to the remote computer, and are you sure there's no Mac version of it?
It is not about client, it is about certificate tool without mac os version, unfortunately.
 
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I have played with VMware fusion and windows 11. It works but my memory pressure goes into yellow with 8GB. I had to give 4GB to the windows VM to get it to work. So the Mac side then only has 4GB left… So it might work but this sounds like a good reason to get more memory. For me it makes both windows and Mac slow 😩 also is what you need compatible with Windows ARM?
 
Oh, i thought that if parallels runs windows vm, all would work. So you are saying that eventhough i can run windows VM in parallels on arm, it is possible that app i need wont run on that VM??
 
Oh, i thought that if parallels runs windows vm, all would work. So you are saying that eventhough i can run windows VM in parallels on arm, it is possible that app i need wont run on that VM??
What is the name of app? I can try it if it’s free or has a free trial.
 
Hi guys,

I want to buy the standard model with 8Gb and 258Gb SSD but I need to know if it’s the right choice. I want to make the change from windows to macOS and I’m willing to use it just for social media, streaming services, movies, utorrent, music and with chrome having between 15-20 tabs opened; ohh and wired to 4k TV. Can I still do that without lag/stuttering or do I really need 16gb of ram? My old pc (almost 7y/o) is also has 8gb ram, i5-6500 cpu and a 1060 6gb gpu, and some outdated ssd, but lately it started to have some freezes and lags.

Thank you for your time and patience with me!

Definitely get 16GB of RAM (24GB, if you can afford it). DEFINITELY DO NOT get the 256GB drive (similarly, if you buy the M2 Pro model, DEFINITELY DO NOT get the 512GB drive; the 512GB drive on anything with the standard M2 is just fine). You will be fine under those use cases (though, I strongly recommend against against utorrent; Transmission is generally better, more lightweight, and less riddled with garbage).
 
Definitely get 16GB of RAM (24GB, if you can afford it). DEFINITELY DO NOT get the 256GB drive (similarly, if you buy the M2 Pro model, DEFINITELY DO NOT get the 512GB drive; the 512GB drive on anything with the standard M2 is just fine).
Sure, the 512GB storage on the M2 Pro systems is slower than the larger storage options but it still reads and writes at over 3GBps. It’s not slow by any means.
 
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This idea that the base model is bad or that the 512 is not good is just ridiculous.... everything is always in relation to what your real needs are. I have said it many times but I have a (2023) mini M2, 16GB/512GB (Tests in Blackmagic: steady at W:3400+ MB/s, R:3000+/- MB/s) which is pretty crazy fast and faster than most people would ever need... I run Adobe Lightroom (off an external ssd library), Photoshop and Illustrator at the same without any issues and I'm going to guess that most people do not actually need or do that.

I also will have a minimum of 2 different browsers with a ton of tabs open (is anyone still actually wondering is this is an issue on any computer?) often running a vpn to stream sports from a different country.

And talking about streaming stuff I highly doubt if the mini would ever be the problem as I think it would way more depend on the internet connection one has... I have cellular based internet as I live very remote and I can stream perfectly fine on any on my macs including my mini. But I use my old iMac 5K that runs off a external ssd and even that is great.

I have no doubt that there are applications and probably some heavy video editing software that likes/needs a higher config but my mini can do crazy stuff, crazy fast which to me means that even the base model can do a lot and most users would never feel it is not fast enough.
 
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Sure, the 512GB storage on the M2 Pro systems is slower than the larger storage options but it still reads and writes at over 3GBps. It’s not slow by any means.

Is it BAD? No. Sub-optimal compared to (a) drives found in other Apple Silicon Macs and (b) drives found in T2 Intel Macs? Definitely. If you don't mind spending the price premium to buy a Mac, but are fine short-changing yourself the performance you OUGHT to have, then by all means, buy the lower-end drives. But, I'm sure you'll find that most spending that kind of money on a Mac would probably prefer not to have a weaker performing drive than that of a Mac costing significantly less. It's one of those "leaves a bad taste in your mouth" kind of things.


This idea that the base model is bad or that the 512 is not good is just ridiculous.... everything is always in relation to what your real needs are. I have said it many times but I have a (2023) mini M2, 16GB/512GB (Tests in Blackmagic: steady at W:3400+ MB/s, R:3000+/- MB/s) which is pretty crazy fast and faster than most people would ever need... I run Adobe Lightroom (off an external ssd library), Photoshop and Illustrator at the same without any issues and I'm going to guess that most people do not actually need or do that.

Standard M2 Mac mini with 512GB isn't affected. Base M2 Pro Mac mini with 512GB, on the other hand, is.

I also will have a minimum of 2 different browsers with a ton of tabs open (is anyone still actually wondering is this is an issue on any computer?) often running a vpn to stream sports from a different country.

And talking about streaming stuff I highly doubt if the mini would ever be the problem as I think it would way more depend on the internet connection one has... I have cellular based internet as I live very remote and I can stream perfectly fine on any on my macs including my mini. But I use my old iMac 5K that runs off a external ssd and even that is great.

Your old 5K iMac likely has a faster drive than a Standard M2 Mac mini's 256GB drive or an M2 Pro Mac mini's 512GB drive. The common counter-argument to that on this site is always "well yeah, but will you ever notice it?" or "yeah, but that's not going to affect real-world performance" (both of which are not universally true arguments to even make). The fact of the matter is that Apple Silicon SSDs are known for being faster than the T2 Mac SSDs which are, themselves, known for being faster than any other SSD found in any other Intel Mac, and these base model SSDs are slower than even the T2 Intel Macs.

I have no doubt that there are applications and probably some heavy video editing software that likes/needs a higher config but my mini can do crazy stuff, crazy fast which to me means that even the base model can do a lot and most users would never feel it is not fast enough.
Again, your Mac mini isn't affected.
 
Is it BAD? No. Sub-optimal compared to (a) drives found in other Apple Silicon Macs and (b) drives found in T2 Intel Macs? Definitely.
The 512GB storage in the base M2 Pro computers is faster than a 512GB 2018 MBP, a 2TB 2019 16” MBP, and a 1TB M1 Mac mini. It is slower than the 1TB or 512GB options in the M1 Pro computers. There are still 2 storage chips in the base M2 Pro computers so performance is still at least as fast as the standard M2 with 512GB storage.
 
Regarding the discussion "is more speed better" (when discussing the slower "stock" SSD v. an upgraded SSD)...

Remember, the m-series CPUs and the modern Mac OS releases rely heavily on disk-swapping initiated by virtual memory. Lots and lots of data moving both on and off the disk.
At least in models with less installed RAM.

The faster SSD will get these behind-the-scenes tasks completed more quickly.

(that's why I've turned OFF VM disk swapping on my Macs -- can't happen)
 
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