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Still not sure why anyone needs access to a power button just sleep your Mac.

For me the moving of the power button to the bottom is actually better because my mini is mounted under my desk and getting to the power button my 2018 mini required quite the reach around. The only time I need my power button is if I need to reset or power the mini back on after a power loss (so maybe 5-6 times a year).
 
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Still not sure why anyone needs access to a power button just sleep your Mac.

For me the moving of the power button to the bottom is actually better because my mini is mounted under my desk and getting to the power button my 2018 mini required quite the reach around. The only time I need my power button is if I need to reset or power the mini back on after a power loss (so maybe 5-6 times a year).
True, that for many users, putting the Mac Mini M4 to "Sleep Mode" will probably be alright. But, putting the unit to "Sleep Mode" does NOT turn OFF the power to the unit, as can be verified by seeing that the "Power ON LED" is still illuminated, even in "Sleep Mode". I am not saying that the Life of the unit will be decreased substanially but it will to some small extent.

I don't know what the current drain is in "Sleep Mode" but I am sure that it is extremely low.

When the unit is "Powered OFF", then all of the Power is OFF and the current drain is ZERO.

This is more of a personal preference than anything else.

Please don't shoot the messenger on this. I am only pointing out what is happening in "Sleep" and "Power OFF" modes.
 
Still not sure why anyone needs access to a power button just sleep your Mac.

For me the moving of the power button to the bottom is actually better because my mini is mounted under my desk and getting to the power button my 2018 mini required quite the reach around. The only time I need my power button is if I need to reset or power the mini back on after a power loss (so maybe 5-6 times a year).
Yesterday‘s problem 🥱.
 
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Still not sure why anyone needs access to a power button just sleep your Mac.

For me the moving of the power button to the bottom is actually better because my mini is mounted under my desk and getting to the power button my 2018 mini required quite the reach around. The only time I need my power button is if I need to reset or power the mini back on after a power loss (so maybe 5-6 times a year).
Honestly, same. Even after a power outage it usually turns back on by itself. I've used the power button on my M1 Mini maybe 2 times in the last 3 years, and that was only because we moved. Mine is also mounted under my desk so the M4 power button isn't an issue for me either way. I feel like it's such an overblown thing or maybe I underestimate how often people turn off their computers because I NEVER turn mine off. It just sleeps until I'm ready to use it again.

And there are already universal under desk mounts that you can buy on Amazon unless you're watching for something to be specifically molded to the M4 Mini. The universal ones work fine though, imo. @tyknep @Populus
 
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I struggle to see why others cannot accept that the power button placement is poor. Just because YOU don't switch off your Mac, that doesn't mean we all do.

My Mac doesn't get used much throughout the week, so there's no need to sleep it for 5 days, I'll switch it off.

I'll be avoiding any hub that hasn't created a solution for this.
 
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Switching it off isn’t the issue

Could have fooled me...

I struggle to see why others cannot except that the power button placement is poor. Just because YOU don't switch off your Mac, that doesn't mean we all do.

My Mac doesn't get used much throughout the week, so there's no need to sleep it for 5 days, I'll switch it off.

I'll be avoiding any hub that hasn't created a solution for this.

What does "this" refer to in "solution to this"?
 
other accessories like wraps
I'm glad you mentioned these. I have something very like this on my old 2017 12" Intel MacBook, and such things are easy to find for Mac notebooks on Amazon. But I hadn't seen them for Mac Minis (perhaps because they're not carried out and about in public view as much?). I wondered if there was such a thing.

First I sought whether they might be available for the old style Mac Minis. Some place called SlickWraps.com (I don't know them) has a page on them. Looks like currently around $30. And they have a page for the Mac Mini 4. Annnddd...despite being smaller, around $33 for the skins I looked at.

Quick question...do skins on a Mac Mini tend to insulate, hold heat in, or do they seem neutral in that regard? Is there any disadvantage (other than $30+ for a vanity piece) to using one?
 
I struggle to see why others cannot except that the power button placement is poor. Just because YOU don't switch off your Mac, that doesn't mean we all do.

My Mac doesn't get used much throughout the week, so there's no need to sleep it for 5 days, I'll switch it off.

I'll be avoiding any hub that hasn't created a solution for this.
I assume you mean ACCEPT.
And just because YOU want a power button at your fingertips, doesn't mean we all do.
 
I struggle to see why others cannot except that the power button placement is poor. Just because YOU don't switch off your Mac, that doesn't mean we all do.

My Mac doesn't get used much throughout the week, so there's no need to sleep it for 5 days, I'll switch it off.

I'll be avoiding any hub that hasn't created a solution for this.

The same reason you can't accept that for a lot of people, it's not really poor at all. Everyone has their own opinion and uses. Just because YOU only use yours on weekends doesn't mean we all do. My Mac gets used every day. They use like 1W-2W while sleeping. You typically use more energy during bootup.
 
If you look carefully at the render in the back left, there appears to be a small hole where the power button is, no?? Looks like they are planning to have something you press on the back of the dock that pops up from underneath to actuate the power button.
I have been in contact with Support at Raycue and they confirmed that the Base Stand/Hub, WILL have the "Push Type" lever/rod so tha the Mac Mini's Power Button can be pushed without lifting the unit up. Their release date is on 15 Dec, if I recall and the way that the folks there were talking, those units WILL have the above "Push Type" lever/rod. You can pre-Order now. But I think I am going to wait until they release images in probably early Dec.
 
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The same reason you can't accept that for a lot of people, it's not really poor at all. Everyone has their own opinion and uses. Just because YOU only use yours on weekends doesn't mean we all do. My Mac gets used every day. They use like 1W-2W while sleeping. You typically use more energy during bootup.
I understand each persons use case is different, however there was no issue with the old button placement. Having to lift up a device to power it on is poor design. This also creates a problem for hubs as they now have to design workarounds for this.
 
The first actual render that I've seen is from RayCue.

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Only USB-C, and doesn't ship for a month... but still.

Good start but make the base a tad thicker so the result is closer to a cube
 
I've preordered the RayCue unit because I realised that I don't need storage at TB5 speeds for a secondary drive. I also like the design. I'll provide updates if/when it arrives.

P.S "RAYCUE20" for a 20% discount at checkout 👍

I begrudgingly did the same. RayCue appears to have designed something aesthetically, thermally, and functionally adequate at a good price before anyone else. We can't get it before December apparently, but I'll support a company that at least rendered something at Mini release vs. the others who haven't even bothered to render yet (OWC / Satechi).

P.S. Thank you for that discount code. :cool:
 
I don’t understand making this a storage only thing
As long as your making something that goes on top or under under Mac mini , add a few extra ports
Perhaps it is part of a modular system. Another module could have ports and a SD card reader plus room for a drive. This would give the consumer a choice on what they could add. So my preferred setup would be the M4 mini, plus a module with a couple of ports (both "A type" and "C type", a SD card reader and room for a drive. Add a second drive only module for Time Machine or perhaps a NAS.
 
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