Mac mini, MacBook: Q2, Celeron M

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by cube, Feb 19, 2006.

  1. cube macrumors G5

    May 10, 2004
    Celeron M 400 (a derivative of Core Solo) will launch in Q2.

    Only the Celeron M line is at the prices needed for these Macs.
  2. ftaok macrumors 603


    Jan 23, 2002
    East Coast
    I kinda doubt that the low-end macs will use Celerons. You say that in terms of pricing, the Celeron is the only chip that makes sense.

    I did a little research and got the following costs.

    1. T1300 Core Solo (1.67 Ghz/667 mhz) - $209
    2. T2300 Core Duo (1.67 Ghz/667 mhz) - $241
    3. 380 Celeron M (1.6 Ghz/400 mhz) - $134

    4. Freescale 7447A (1.42 Ghz/167 mhz) - $473

    I'm guessing that Apple can get G4s at less than $473, but probably nowhere near the $134 price of the Celeron. So with the pricing disparity between the G4 and the Intel chips, I think Apple could afford to put the T2300 Duo chip in the new iBooks and Mac minis. Although, I'm betting that they go with the T1300 to maintain a spec gap between the "consumer" and "professional" Macs.

    Here are the links where I got the pricing.

    Intel Pricelist
    G4 price - Arrow Electronics
  3. joebells macrumors 6502

    Oct 24, 2005
    wow 473 bucks I wonder how much that price is inflated and how much apple actually pays for a g4 chip. I really hope they go with the duo chip for the ibook.
  4. zap2 macrumors 604


    Mar 8, 2005
    Washington D.C
    Well i hope will be getting good deals form intel on low priced chips but i hope no Celerons, i real doubt Apple will make such a low cost Mac
  5. cube thread starter macrumors G5

    May 10, 2004
  6. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus


    Jan 9, 2004
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    I somehow suspect that, following what has always happened with PBs and iBooks, the MBP will get a bump to a faster Core Duo, and the iBook will use the one or two Core Duo speeds just below the ultraportable MBP-line offering. The Celeron-M is a stripped down Core Solo, right? I somehow don't think we're going to see that in a Mac.
  7. Peyton macrumors 68000


    Feb 2, 2006
    I actually think they will both get the Duo because Merom will be coming out late summer (or so) and that can be in the new MBP, therefore making a bigger gap between product lines.

    I would wonder why they seem to be waiting for the solos to come out for the ibook/mini launch. Could be R&D time, but seems logical to me.
  8. cube thread starter macrumors G5

    May 10, 2004
    - Merom was pushed to Q4
    - Core Solo is already out.
  9. badmofo9000 macrumors regular

    Feb 14, 2005
    Shores of Lake Michigan
    Please god let it be a core solo at least. If it is a celeron I will not buy it, period. I will buy a dell instead. Celeron is the biggest pile of **** known to man. I know this version of the celeron should be way better than previous versions but apple please give me a core solo.
  10. gekko513 macrumors 603


    Oct 16, 2003
    The first desktop Celeron was a pile of ****. The Celeron M wasn't very different from the Pentium M. If the Celeron M 400 isn't much different from the Core Solo then I'm all for it.
  11. cube thread starter macrumors G5

    May 10, 2004
    The Core Duo has 2 MiB of cache, so that is "more or less 1 MiB per core".
    The Core Solo still has 2 MiB of cache. If more or less 1 MiB is enough for a core in a Duo,
    why not making some interesting cost savings (not like disabling a core) and reduce to 1 MiB of cache? => Celeron M

    The only thing you could really argue about is the crippled FSB. But Celeron M has 3 times the FSB of the iBook and twice the cache, so saying Celeron M is crap is just whining.

    If Apple puts a Core Solo it will be doing a disservice both to itself and its customers. For only $30 more, they can put a Duo.
  12. cube thread starter macrumors G5

    May 10, 2004
    In April, they will launch the following Celeron M Yonahs (1 MB cache):

    420: 1.6 GHz
    430: 1.73 GHz

    Later, there will be the 410 (1.46 GHz), but I guess that doesn't matter.
  13. FireArse macrumors 6502a

    Oct 29, 2004
    slower and slower

    We're gonna end up with slower than PPC speeds at this rate! Second-hand 15' 1.67GHz G4 anyone?!

  14. cube thread starter macrumors G5

    May 10, 2004
    The iBooks only run at 1.33 and 1.42 GHz

    A 1.67 GHz PowerBook should be slower than a 1.6 GHz Celeron M anyway. (But I guess not for Altivec)
    Although Yonah has a 14-stage pipeline compared to only 7 for G4. But the branch prediction should be better...

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