Mac mini mid2011 obsolescence

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  1. vasim macrumors newbie

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    Hi.

    I am writing to ask, what is the estimated date of the Mac mini mid2011 obsolescence? Will it be at vintage stage some time?

    I see that the model was discontinued on 23/10/2012

    Thanks.
     
  2. now i see it macrumors 65816

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  3. vasim thread starter macrumors newbie

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    So I think that macOS 10.13 will be the last (or not?) upgrade to this.
     
  4. venom600 macrumors 6502a

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    Probably not... there's nothing in the upcoming OS (I assume) that should require new drivers or features that it won't support.
     
  5. Andres Cantu macrumors 68030

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    Since there was a significant jump in performance between the 2010 and 2011 models, I'd say it's safe for a bit longer.
     
  6. vasim thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thats good news. I thought selling it but the mac mini 2014 is not offering many more because mine is upgraded with ssd and 8 gb ram. My real problem is not the macos but the xcode updates because i am an ios developer.

    I think it will offer me two to three years more of this type of upgrades
     
  7. Andres Cantu macrumors 68030

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    Yeah, for sure! Having an SSD and 8GB of RAM already makes that machine pretty speedy, no need for a new one unless you needed more graphics horsepower.
     
  8. flyinmac macrumors 68030

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    It's important to remember that the graphics system is where Apple tends to discontinue support first.

    In upgradable systems, we've gotten around that by upgrading the video card.

    If Apple discontinues support for the mini's graphics, then it will require finding a way to replace the missing drivers / support.

    Naturally, this assumes that Apple doesn't bloat the graphical interface to a point that the old mini's integrated gpu can't keep up.

    For determining an estimated useful lifespan, I would see which CPU and Integrated GPU you have. Then see when that mix was most recently used in any Mac (Mini or iMac or MacBook, etc).

    Base your estimate on when the more recent machines that used that mix of CPU and GPU were discontinued.
     
  9. now i see it macrumors 65816

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    These things don't last forever anyway. Components fail. My old 2008 mini croaked after a slow creaky death. Plan on replacing one every 7 years. Apple obsoletes everything after 7 years because that's when the components can start having problems. Right when you need them, no parts available.
     
  10. vasim thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I know that. I don't expect to last forever. As you said, 7 years after discontinuation is a very good life span. Counting your words, this mac will last till 2019 (if i am correct), and without the last software support till 2021 (thiniking that the most recent xcode environment is supported for two versions back) .

    This is an estimation , all things change...
     
  11. MysticCow macrumors 6502a

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    The graphics are not supported already because the lackluster Metal API doesn't work on those 2011 minis. Even the one with the Radeon chip isn't immune to it.

    On the bright side, Windows 10 runs better than the macOS on those minis anyway, so we can always jump to Windows.
     
  12. flyinmac macrumors 68030

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    Yes, Windows 10 does support machines very well.

    I've got Windows 10 on my 2006 Mac Pro. Works great. Fully supported.

    Apple is more about moving on and selling new machines. Microsoft supports technology longer, and gives you a greater lifespan.

    From that perspective, I would say Microsoft does more to minimize ewaste than Apple.

    I've got some 13+ year old machines that can still run Windows 10 quite well.

    Apple has a history of dropping support (and blocking installation) of OS X on machines that can still run the newer versions quite well if you can edit the installer to remove the roadblocks Apple inserted.
     
  13. vasim thread starter macrumors newbie

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    If it will be a reason to discontinue the mac mini 2011 it will be this reason.

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205073

    I have no need to run windows because I own windows pcs too.

    Also as an owner of a macbook air 2016 I dont really care if i get the latest software update but as I see it is not worth to buy the latest mac mini because it is old too, and I hope that mac mini will get the next os at least, because I like this machine...
     
  14. Partron22 macrumors 68000

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    I'm still using a 2005 Mini with an ext TB Firewire drive to stream music. With OSX "ThunderLizard" (10.5.11). I can still run System 9 Apps in emulation. Should that system fail, I've got a functional ~2001? slot loading iMac (the bulbous ones) waiting behind the basement steps to take over.
    Unless you drop the things, or get unlucky, Macs can last and be useful for a decade or more.
     
  15. pacmania1982 macrumors 6502a

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    Screen Shot 2017-03-27 at 10.02.32.png
    I'm half expecting Apple to make this Mac mini obsolete with the release of 10.13 this year.
     
  16. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

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    I am sorry to hear that your machine stops functioning the exact moment that the next OS is relased.
     
  17. pacmania1982 macrumors 6502a

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    That's not what I said....
     
  18. vasim thread starter macrumors newbie

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    How do you say that?
     
  19. vasim thread starter macrumors newbie

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    The question is (I have read many topics) is it worth to sell this (my mac mini 2011 (2.3ghz) is upgraded with an 128GB SSD and 8GB Ram) and replace it with a mac mini 2014 (unfortunately I can afford only the basic model, and upgrade it with an SSD - the RAM is not upgrading)?

    As I told, I need this machine to write code on XCode, browsing, email, office, and a little bit Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Fireworks.

    I am affraid of stop upgrading the OS and then not having XCode updates.
     
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    Whatever you get. It should have an SSD or Fusion & 8 gB ram. The real cheapest 2014 Mac Mini actually cost $849 (1.4 ghz, 8gb ram, 1TB Fusion)
     
  21. Celerondon macrumors 6502a

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    You may be correct about that $849 1.4 GHz model but this slope is a little slippery, isn't it? :rolleyes:

    For $899 vasim could have a similarly equipped 2.6 GHz. So that would be $50 for a lot more CPU clock speed. That is a much better deal than the other mini CPU upgrades. With those Apple will boost you from a 2.6 GHz i5 to a 3.0 GHz i7 (dual core) for $300 or from a 2.8 GHz i5 to that same 3.0 GHz i7 for $200. Those are some rather expensive clock ticks especially when you consider that they will not affect performance nearly as much as the 0.8 GHz leap from the base model to the mid-range mini. ;)

    Either way,
     
  22. dogslobber macrumors 68020

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    They don't support it because it's probably not tested on older systems. Chances are they don't have obsolete systems now so this is what they do. Were they to support it then they gotta test it to certify it. It's how these things have to be done.
     
  23. vasim thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I decided to keep my old mini. As I found on MacTracker it was discontinued on October 2012.

    It will get the 10.13 OSX so its life (I think) will go to 2018-2019 (at least)

    I I think it is the best decision, waiting if Apple decides to manufacture a newest than 2014
     
  24. Osty macrumors 6502a

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    I ran Windows 10 on mine briefly but the only performance advantage it has was graphics. Disk performance was dreadful on the stock drive: it was slower to boot and load programs but once they were in memory they were pretty good. If I try Windows again on (which I've thought about doing so I can use my old Adobe CC 5.5 licence), I'd install it on an SSD.

    As an aside, I've also run Linux on it and that performed very well too.

    Mine is on borrowed time. I've baked the motherboard once already to repair the GPU solder issue. It's living out its days as my home server.
     
  25. EightyTwenty macrumors 6502

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    Even thinking about buying the 2014 entry-level Mac Mini is insanity.

    Save your money. It will be significantly slower than the mini you have now.

    The 2014 mini is total junk.

    That Apple continues to sell a machine with 4 gb of RAM in 2017 is a farce.
     

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