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Stephers

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Dec 25, 2005
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Toronto, Canada
I parents bought me a mac for xmas. This is my first time using a mac so it's something new and I've been trying to learn it's ins and outs. I'm having only a couple issues. I installed the mac msn messenger but it does not seem to want to work for me. Everything was properly installed but when trying to sign on it says that I am not connnected to the internet or msn is not avaliable? I'm not sure how to solve this problem any suggests would be good.

And i was using safari as my internet browser and my minimize button isn't working for me anymore. (the yellow button, top left between the red and green). Can someone explain to me how i can get that working again
:confused:
 
Have you tried restarting? In the preferences for MSN is a connections tab, make sure that proxy server isn't checked. Welcome to the Mac side! It will take some getting used to. Remember, its NOT Windows!!!! So it won't operate like it. You have to have an open mind and think simple with a Mac.
 
I have a problem with MSN messenger it disconnects every night precisely at midnight same as ichat why is this??
 
OutThere said:
Try using Adium. (http://www.adiumx.com), which is a very full featured IM client for OS X that works with a whole bunch of IM services...much better than the basic MSN client.


how do i uninstall msn messenger then? I don't know where to uninstall things... or where to restart the computer for that matter. :eek:
 
Restart from the Apple menu in the top left corner. Uninstall the majority of apps (including Messenger) by literally dragging them to the trash from your Applications folder, and emptying. :)
 
Wow this is sad how little i know about my new computer. The one thing i like about macs is how advanced it is! Shocking that everyone doesn't have a mac at home.

sadly though the msn messenger is still not working. So i'll try that other program suggested.
 
grr okay so adium wont work either.
Gaim error
connection error from notification server.

I'm obviously connected to the internet so what's wrong!? :(
 
Stephers said:
I'm obviously connected to the internet so what's wrong!? :(

Can you please say more about your network configuration? How does your Mac obtain a network connection? What is the other hardware inside your physical house or home or whatever?

Is there any chance you have proxy service?
 
If your pc can connect to MSN, then its either the network or the mac. so go into system preferences, then networking under tcp/ip make sure it has a 192.168.*.* IP or a 10.0.*.* address. My only other idea is maybe you use a proxy on the PC?
 
Everything you said is there. I don't believe we use a proxy on the pc. I downloaded different versions of the mac messenger. the one i just had said i needed to download the new version before i could use it so i did that and it didn't flippin' work. I don't understand what is so difficult with mac msn messenger.
 
This is not normally the case.:) Could someone tell us how to find out of the PC uses a proxy? As i have never used a proxy before for msn, or on windows.
 
my parents don't seem to think we use a proxy on the computer downstairs, but then again they know literally nothing about computers.


i deleted the other messengers and tried reinstalling. and of course i get the same message.
sign in to microsoft messenger failed because the service is not available or you may not be connected to the internet.
 
If no one in your family knows what a proxy server is, you're probably not using one. ;)

But otherwise, I'm stumped...you have a valid internet connection, in the sense that mail and web browsing work, but messaging does not. I could think of reasons why that is the case on a corporate network or something like that, but not at home.

The computer doesn't have parental controls turned on, does it? :eek:
 
weird......Maybe try phoning your ISP and asking them.....or try talk to adium people, i have never seen a problem like this before. Maybe you are logged in to msn with that account with another comp?
 
trainguy77 said:
Maybe you are logged in to msn with that account with another comp?

When this happens, MSN will kick you off the first computer. Actually, the exact same thing happens if you run Adium and then start MSN Msngr after Adium connects to MSN. With AOL, it will ping you and ask you if you want to be logged on x2, but MSN will just kick you off. So I don't think that's the issue....man...stumper! :(
 
mkrishnan said:
If no one in your family knows what a proxy server is, you're probably not using one. ;)

But otherwise, I'm stumped...you have a valid internet connection, in the sense that mail and web browsing work, but messaging does not. I could think of reasons why that is the case on a corporate network or something like that, but not at home.

The computer doesn't have parental controls turned on, does it? :eek:


lovely. I guess I'm going to have to try and contact someone and msn. And no the parental controls are definatly not turned on. Thanks to trying to help. I'll post any new information once i get some.
 
Really long support email

The following conditions may apply:

- The MSN Messenger servers are temporarily unavailable.
- Your MSN Messenger proxy settings are not correct.
- Your MSN Messenger service is blocked by a firewall.
- Your computer is not connected to the Internet.
- Your computer network does not allow for access to the MSN Messenger service.
- Your Internet connection may be down or may be very slow.
- The MSN Messenger for Mac operating system cannot verify the certificate.


Please follow these steps in the order they appear to help resolve this issue:


1. Visit http://www.microsoft.com to make sure that you are connected to the Internet. If the Web page does not appear, troubleshoot the connectivity issue:

a. Make sure that your Internet browser has the correct proxy configuration settings. Contact your network administrator or your Internet service provider (ISP) to determine the correct settings. If you are not sure of the settings, clear any proxy settings that are available and then test the connectivity again. Clear the proxy configuration settings in Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.2:
i. Start Internet Explorer 5.2.
ii. On the "Explorer" menu, click "Preferences."
iii. Under "Network option," click "Proxies."
iv. Clear the "Secure Proxy Option" check box, and then click "OK."
v. Try to visit a Web site again.

b. Make sure that the firewall or the router that you are using gives you access to port HTTP (80). For more information about port settings, contact the firewall or router manufacturer.

c. Make sure that you do not have any antivirus or third-party spyware programs that conflict with MSN Messenger:
i. Visit http://microsoft.com/spyware for more information and to obtain tools that you can use to remove third-party programs.
ii. Make sure that you have the latest antivirus software on your computer. Contact the antivirus software manufacturer for more information.

d. If these steps do not resolve your connectivity issue, your TCP/IP settings may be incorrect or your network adaptor may have to be reinstalled. Contact your ISP or computer manufacturer for help.

2. Visit http://messenger.msn.com to install the latest version of MSN Messenger.

3. If you are using a firewall, make sure that MSN Messenger has full access through the firewall. For more information about how to provide full access to MSN Messenger through your firewall, contact the manufacturer of the firewall.

4. Make sure that the current date and time are set correctly on your computer.

Note: An incorrect date or time may prevent your Internet browser from recognizing your MSN Messenger certificate. Or, an incorrect date or time may cause the browser to disable your certificate in "Certificate Authorities."

a. Reset the "Certificate Authorities" to the default levels:
i. Start Microsoft Internet Explorer for Mac.
ii. On the "Explorer" menu, click "Preferences."
iii. Under "Web Browser," click "Security."
iv. Under "Certificate Authorities," click "Reset To Defaults."
v. Click "OK."

5. If your computer is part of a corporate network, contact your network administrator to make sure that the network allows access to the Microsoft .NET Messenger service.

6. If you use a dial-up connection, you may be experiencing slow connectivity speeds and the connection may be timing out. Try to connect again later.


I don't understand half that information and I tried the ones with the steps and it's still not working. So I'm pretty sure my problem is d. But that one is the one i understand the least? I have to call my internet provider?

why does everything have to be so difficult.
 
This really is a strange problem :confused: . Does MSN Msg work on your PC? Because if it does then it should mean that there's just an issues with some settings rather than your actual internet connection. Maybe try checking all your MSN settings on the PC, and check that they are all the same on your Mac. A bit off topic, but what kind of Mac did you get?
 
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