Mac newbie backup help

boomdog

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I'm rather new to Mac, my first one arrived on Monday! Unfortunately, the screen has a faulty pixel which I only noticed on Tuesday and as a result I have booked a genius bar appointment for Sunday. I don't really know how the warranty works on MacBooks however if it's anything like iPhones/iPads I'll probably walk away with a new machine. With that in mind I want to try and save myself the hassle of downloading and installing updates, apps and other software along with many of the work documents I have already transferred to my new machine.

Q1.) Is there a way to back everything up (software, apps, documents, settings) so I can simply restore everything to a new machine (if I get one)?

Q2.) I have an external (NTFC) that I use with a windows PC, can I use that for backup?

Q3.) If the above is not possible, could I partition the device to make it work with both Windows and Mac - even if that means separate partitions.

Any advice you can give would be most appreciated.
 

GGJstudios

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May 16, 2008
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If you want to back up everything, including system files, the backup external drive must be formatted as HFS+, or at least have a partition that is formatted as HFS+. For backups, I recommend Carbon Copy Cloner, which can make a bootable clone of your drive, including the OS X Recovery Partition.

You can use version 3.5.1 ($40) or 3.4.7 (free, and works well on OS X 10.6, 10.7 and 10.8). Unlike SuperDuper!, CCC also clones the OS X Recovery partition.
 

boomdog

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If you want to back up everything, including system files, the backup external drive must be formatted as HFS+, or at least have a partition that is formatted as HFS+. For backups, I recommend Carbon Copy Cloner, which can make a bootable clone of your drive, including the OS X Recovery Partition.

You can use version 3.5.1 ($40) or 3.4.7 (free, and works well on OS X 10.6, 10.7 and 10.8). Unlike SuperDuper!, CCC also clones the OS X Recovery partition.
Thanks for the near immediate response!

Can I format the drive to HFS+ through windows or will it have to be done in OS X?

Will OS X pick up the drive if it is currently formatted in NTFS and is it easy to partition the drive in OS X?
 

GGJstudios

macrumors Westmere
May 16, 2008
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Thanks for the near immediate response!

Can I format the drive to HFS+ through windows or will it have to be done in OS X?

Will OS X pick up the drive if it is currently formatted in NTFS and is it easy to partition the drive in OS X?
You'll have to format the drive as HFS+ using OS X, since Windows cannot natively read or write HFS+ drives. OS X can natively read, but not write to, NTFS-formatted drives. The following will give you all the information you need about formats.

Format A Hard Drive Using Disk Utility (which is in your /Applications/Utilities folder)
Choose the appropriate format:
HFS+ (Hierarchical File System, a.k.a. Mac OS Extended (Journaled) Don't use case-sensitive) NTFS (Windows NT File System)
  • Read/Write NTFS from native Windows.
  • Read only NTFS from native Mac OS X [*]To Read/Write/Format NTFS from Mac OS X, here are some alternatives:
    • For Mac OS X 10.4 or later (32 or 64-bit), install Paragon (approx $20) (Best Choice for Lion and later)
    • For 32-bit Mac OS X, install NTFS-3G for Mac OS X (free) (does not work in 64-bit mode)
    • For 64-bit Snow Leopard, read this: MacFUSE for 64-bit Snow Leopard
    • Some have reported problems using Tuxera (approx $36).
    • Native NTFS support can be enabled in Snow Leopard and Lion, but is not advisable, due to instability.
  • AirPort Extreme (802.11n) and Time Capsule do not support NTFS
  • Maximum file size: 16 TB
  • Maximum volume size: 256TB
  • You can use this format if you routinely share a drive with multiple Windows systems.
exFAT (FAT64)
  • Supported in Mac OS X only in 10.6.5 or later.
  • Not all Windows versions support exFAT. See disadvantages.
  • exFAT (Extended File Allocation Table)
  • AirPort Extreme (802.11n) and Time Capsule do not support exFAT
  • Maximum file size: 16 EiB
  • Maximum volume size: 64 ZiB
  • You can use this format if it is supported by all computers with which you intend to share the drive. See "disadvantages" for details.
FAT32 (File Allocation Table)
  • Read/Write FAT32 from both native Windows and native Mac OS X. [*]Maximum file size: 4GB.
  • Maximum volume size: 2TB
  • You can use this format if you share the drive between Mac OS X and Windows computers and have no files larger than 4GB.
 

boomdog

macrumors regular
Original poster
You'll have to format the drive as HFS+ using OS X, since Windows cannot natively read or write HFS+ drives. OS X can natively read, but not write to, NTFS-formatted drives. The following will give you all the information you need about formats.

Format A Hard Drive Using Disk Utility (which is in your /Applications/Utilities folder)
Choose the appropriate format:
HFS+ (Hierarchical File System, a.k.a. Mac OS Extended (Journaled) Don't use case-sensitive) NTFS (Windows NT File System)
  • Read/Write NTFS from native Windows.
  • Read only NTFS from native Mac OS X [*]To Read/Write/Format NTFS from Mac OS X, here are some alternatives:
    • For Mac OS X 10.4 or later (32 or 64-bit), install Paragon (approx $20) (Best Choice for Lion and later)
    • For 32-bit Mac OS X, install NTFS-3G for Mac OS X (free) (does not work in 64-bit mode)
    • For 64-bit Snow Leopard, read this: MacFUSE for 64-bit Snow Leopard
    • Some have reported problems using Tuxera (approx $36).
    • Native NTFS support can be enabled in Snow Leopard and Lion, but is not advisable, due to instability.
  • AirPort Extreme (802.11n) and Time Capsule do not support NTFS
  • Maximum file size: 16 TB
  • Maximum volume size: 256TB
  • You can use this format if you routinely share a drive with multiple Windows systems.
exFAT (FAT64)
  • Supported in Mac OS X only in 10.6.5 or later.
  • Not all Windows versions support exFAT. See disadvantages.
  • exFAT (Extended File Allocation Table)
  • AirPort Extreme (802.11n) and Time Capsule do not support exFAT
  • Maximum file size: 16 EiB
  • Maximum volume size: 64 ZiB
  • You can use this format if it is supported by all computers with which you intend to share the drive. See "disadvantages" for details.
FAT32 (File Allocation Table)
  • Read/Write FAT32 from both native Windows and native Mac OS X. [*]Maximum file size: 4GB.
  • Maximum volume size: 2TB
  • You can use this format if you share the drive between Mac OS X and Windows computers and have no files larger than 4GB.
Unreal, thank you so much. I'll hopefully be good from here but will add to the thread if I hit any problems.

Thanks again, saved me heaps of time!
 
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