Mac OS 10.14.4 Freezes

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  1. blue68camaro, Mar 26, 2019
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    iMac Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2017, I7, 8GB Ram. After upgrade from 10.14.3 to 10.14.4 can not close or minimize any open apps that have opened on startup, able to force quit open apps but can not start any. Unable to open anything in Dock. Only top half visible of dock. Did a command R selected restore to fix. Just FYI.......
     
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    I edited my initial post. Should have said After upgrade from 10.14.3 to 10.14.4........
    MORE INFO: So today I decided to give it another try after updating the Wife's MacBook Air without issues. iMac updated went fine, no issues to report, worked perfect. I suspect somehow the file got corrupted during the download, no other logical explanation IMO.
     
  4. dmoz, Mar 27, 2019
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    Same thing happening for me. In the middle of working it seems to be okay, then randomly(about every minute or so) I'll simply click on a new window/app and nothing happens—I can't click anywhere or on anything. After about 30s everywhere I clicked or everything I did with the mouse happens in a 1/2 second—like it's catching up to itself. Very annoying. Only started happening after updating to 10.14.4. I'm on a brand new MBP 15".

    EDIT: It seems the freeze only really happens consistently when I click from any app to Finder and select a file—at least as far as I can tell right now. When do this the preview spinner shows hung/stopped and everything freezes :/ Tried restarting Finder and the Mac. Still happening.

    EDIT 2: I restarted again and it seems to be okay so far. No freezes yet. Still odd that it was doing it in the first place.
     
  5. mcvaughan macrumors 6502a

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    I rebooted and so far, so good for me.
     
  6. Honza1 macrumors 6502

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    I have similar issue on MBP 15 inch, 2017. In my case 10.14.4 becomes unresponsive = slow to activate other app windows after sleeping while attached to external monitors (one 4K and one 2k) and docking station with TM disk. Once app is activated (slow), its windows behave marginally OK, still slow, but usable. But keyboard response (typing) is slow also, so not useful. Interestingly, mouse movements are as fast as ever.
    Reboot fixes it. Sleep with no external devices (monitor, dock, disks) attached and lid closed is fine, overnight or simply between work and home. But 60+ minutes sleep on desk with Lid opened and all cables/devices attached, and it becomes impossible to switch between apps. Disconnecting the 4K monitor hangs computer completely, resulting in hard reboot. No solution yet. Reported to Apple as bug, it was not in 10.14.3.
    If anyone has similar issue and some insight, please, share.
     
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    My 2017 12" MB freezes when it wakes from sleep and I immediately hit the finder icon. Only then. Really bizarre.
     
  8. Daniel2300 macrumors newbie

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    I could not install 10.14.4, hanged at unsupported CPU
     
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    yes, successfully install 10.14.4, upgrade Clover
     
  10. yang360 macrumors newbie

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    I have the exact same issue. When i wake my 2018 MBP from sleep, with my LG 5k monitor attached, moving windows, typing text, and opening apps lags hard, but the mouse cursor appears to work fine. I have to restart to fix it. One thing i notice is that when this happens, iStat Menu reports the AMD GPU core and memory to be 0 -- dont know if this has anything to do with it.
     
  11. Honza1 macrumors 6502

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    I have interesting observation : I have two setups which are quite similar. In one case I have 4k monitor and MBP with internal display. In this case I have no problems. In second case I have 4k monitor, external 2k monitor and internal display. In this case I have problems. 4k monitors are the same. After disconnecting the 2k monitor before sleep from the second setup, the problem DID NOT occur today. May be the issue is related to number of pixels for the system?
     
  12. rtrueman macrumors member

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    Same issue here with a Belkin Thunderbolt dock and two external monitors (1920x1080) and the laptop display as a third. Always happens after a longer sleep (30 - 45 minutes). I come back and the 2017 MacBook Pro "pauses" then catches up exactly as Honza1 describes.
     
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    Hm, I have Kensington Thunderbolt 3 SD5000T dock on the setup, where this problem happens. May be it is something related to the dock? My other setup has no dock.
     
  14. Honza1 macrumors 6502

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    I have identified this to be related to my docking stations. When I connect same devices via usb-c cables or dongles directly, without docking station, my computer sleeps well and does not to wake with the slowness and freezing.
    Actually, with the docking station and after sleep (=when freezing and generally slow to respond) if I disconnect any usb-c device from my MBP, it hangs and needs hard reboot. When in this slow situation the best way is shut down or reboot.
    Different docking stations seem to have somehow different impact. My Kensington DS500T produces visibly slower system and more freezing, than my Tripplite U442 docking station. Both slow down the system and cause freezing, but in different level.
    At this time I can operate normally when I do not use my docking stations. It's just more work to plug in 4 usb-c cables instead of one or two.
     
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    Does anyone have any experience with the OWC docks?
     
  16. Pfenya macrumors newbie

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    I'm seeing the same issue but with the Elgato TB3 dock
     
  17. Honza1 macrumors 6502

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    Anyone who has these issues, please, report them to Apple on http://bugreport.apple.com so they are aware of this and fix this for future releases.
     
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    I've seen this issue with previous versions of Mojave. Something happens on the install that causes the machine to be lethargic and crappy overall. The only fix I have found is to reinstall. Lately I have been imaging the OS as to avoid issues on installations or updates.
     
  19. ZZ Bottom macrumors 6502a

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    Just updated from 10.14.1. to 10.14.4 on 2018 MBP 15" and I'm now seeing 10-45 second delays on simple OS tasks like opening Launchpad, System Preferences, etc.

    Activity Monitor shows nothing consuming unusual CPU or Memory under All Processes. Submitted bug report to Apple.

    Really sucks to have a work machine be rendered a slug. Only reason I updated is because of Xcode update requirement for building to iOS devices on 12.2.
     
  20. rtrueman macrumors member

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    Are you using a docking station? If so, does this occur when you're not connected to the dock? Thanks!
     
  21. yang360 macrumors newbie

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    Just want to add that I use a Caldigit thunderbolt docking station in my setup.
     
  22. rtrueman macrumors member

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    Unfortunately, 10.14.5 didn't fix the problem and Belkin's technical support is terrible. Did anyone have any luck with this issue?
     
  23. mcvaughan macrumors 6502a

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    In my case I use the HyperDrive USB-C hub to connect an external display (LG 5K), and I haven't been using it lately, so I have not experienced any issues. So, in this case, I can't really offer any help. I'm sure it's a macOS problem though, not a 3rd party's.
     
  24. Honza1 macrumors 6502

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    Still problem after 10.14.5 update. They did not fix it even though they closed my prior report as "duplicate of ....". I assumed that if it is known issue they will fix it - it was not there in prior 10.14.x versions. Too much to ask, I guess.

    I reported it as new issue to bug report.

    In my case I "improved" my life by setting the time for sleep manually using pmset command. I set the computer sleep to 240 minutes while screen sleeps much earlier. By default these times are the same. This way my computer does not fall asleep during work day and so it does not hang on wake. But it is stupid workaround.
     
  25. Crunch macrumors 6502a

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    What the f---------. So USB-C docks are causing a lot of these problems. We wouldn't need USB-C docks if Apple didn't force us to use them in the first f------- place with their USB-C only ports.

    How widespread is this issue of freezing when using docks?? @#$%^&*(OP){

    At this rate, I'll never update to anything above 10.12.6. DAMNED.
     

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