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Mac OS 8.6 findings and ramblings

So the CF card also did not work? That's sad...

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Have you tried placing one of these under the laptop? A board with fans underneath, with holes for air to circulate.

No need to worry about "Fake the CPU PVR" instructions. That is only required on different machines. I apologize for the confusion.
 
Jubadub said:
So the CF card also did not work? That's sad...

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Have you tried placing one of these under the laptop? A board with fans underneath, with holes for air to circulate.

No need to worry about "Fake the CPU PVR" instructions. That is only required on different machines. I apologize for the confusion.
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I dont think its a heat issue as only @AphoticD ran into that issue and his Pismo still had a stock G3 CPU! and it only manifested itself as the L2 cache vanishing, I dont think it ever just randomly turned off (there is no thermal shutdown on these machines AFAIK)

iv certainly not ran into it myself either


but as you say the Fake PVR stuff is for other machines it not Applicable to the PowerBook G3 you dont need to worry about that :)
 
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Jubadub said:
So the CF card also did not work? That's sad...

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Have you tried placing one of these under the laptop? A board with fans underneath, with holes for air to circulate.

No need to worry about "Fake the CPU PVR" instructions. That is only required on different machines. I apologize for the confusion.
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Yes, I used "a PC table with fans" a long time ago.

Here is the current working environment
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There is crowded on my narrow desk.

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I have 3 Books include Pismo.

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"Rain Design mStand 360" is a stand for MacBook Late 2008.

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But sometimes I use Pismo on the stand.
 
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Amethyst1 said:
Did you read this thread? Especially posts 1 and 2? And just for the record, I got 8.6 to boot on a Titanium which is even newer than teh Pismo and had 9.1 as original OS :)
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Ok, sorry for the long delay. 8.6 would not boot on my Titanium and I downloaded the retail install disc.
 
Macbookprodude said:
Ok, sorry for the long delay. 8.6 would not boot on my Titanium and I downloaded the retail install disc.
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Did you also use the required OF commands? Also remember to boot 8.6 not from the CD itself, but from an internal disk, in case you haven't.

Also, while we remain on the topic of Mac OS 8.6, what are the fastest graphics cards it supports? For 3dfx I figure the Voodoo 5 5500 family, but what about ATI and NVidia? Not the Radeon 8500 and Ti4600 like Mac OS 9.2.2, I presume.
 
Jubadub said:
Did you also use the required OF commands? Also remember to boot 8.6 not from the CD itself, but from an internal disk, in case you haven't.

Also, while we remain on the topic of Mac OS 8.6, what are the fastest graphics cards it supports? For 3dfx I figure the Voodoo 5 5500 family, but what about ATI and NVidia? Not the Radeon 8500 and Ti4600 like Mac OS 9.2.2, I presume.
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Some people have tested Radeon drivers all the way back to System 7.5.x PPC, so there is a good chance the R7000/7200/7500/8500/9000/9100 could be made to work with OS 8.6 by installing the latest Radeon drivers of OS 9.x.
 
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B S Magnet said:
I am very fond of this highly efficient desk space.
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Thank you for your interest.

SE/30 --- kanjitalk 6.0.7 - Mac OS 8.1
PowerBook G3 Pismo/iBook G3 16 VRAM --- Mac OS 9.0 - Mac OS X 10.4
MacBook Late 2008 --- Mac OS X 10.4 - OSX 10.11

Only missing Mac OS 8.6(8.5).
That's why this forum is important.
 
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forzamyro said:
MacBook Late 2008 --- Mac OS X 10.4 - OSX 10.11
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Are you really running 10.4 (Tiger) on an Aluminum MacBook? I ask because I tried Tiger on a 2009 Mac mini which is very similar in terms of hardware and didn't get very far at all.
 
forzamyro said:
Thank you for your interest.

SE/30 --- kanjitalk 6.0.7 - Mac OS 8.1
PowerBook G3 Pismo/iBook G3 16 VRAM --- Mac OS 9.0 - Mac OS X 10.4
MacBook Late 2008 --- Mac OS X 10.4 - OSX 10.11

Only missing Mac OS 8.6(8.5).
That's why this forum is important.
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My desk is larger but less space-efficient in how I use it. The way you have arranged everything on yours is motivating me to re-think my own desk’s ergonomics.
 
Amethyst1 said:
Are you really running 10.4 (Tiger) on an Aluminum MacBook? I ask because I tried Tiger on a 2009 Mac mini which is very similar in terms of hardware and didn't get very far at all.
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With a help of VMware Fusion 6 on Mavericks.
This is a Library of Mac OS X 10.4 - Mac OS X 10.10.

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And a help of Mac OS X Install Disc 1
2Z691-5967-A (version 10.4.8)

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Sorry, I will skip the details because it deviates from this thread.
 
On the subject of desk ergonomics and efficiency, for anyone interested, I recommend looking into a professional-level KVM. If the individual machine is on, I need to do nothing else: I switch all my input (video, USB, sound output, sound input) with keyboard shortcuts without needing to even get up. Excellent when jumping between your home office work computer, your PC, your many Macs and other misc. devices (in my case, also a Rasberry Pi, PSVita TV, with more game consoles to come).

In my case I use a dual-link DVI-I KVM that supports a dual-link DVI-D monitor and a VGA or DVI-A monitor, so I can switch to my 4:3 CRT for games etc. and a nice, big 16:10 LCD monitor (which would be great to one day replace with a 1080p RGB OLED monitor, and/or a 16:10 huge CRT... if money allowed) for everything else. I love DVI-I for bridging the digital and analog worlds of devices the best, but other KVM types also exist. My particular KVM supports 8 input devices, but if I bought more, they are designed to be stacked (over 100 devices) by functioning as one. (ATEN CS1788 is my specific KVM -- there's also a quite cheaper single link version, called ATEN CS1768.)

They also work great with USB hubs: I have 4 different game controllers plugged in, and I can use them on all my devices (minus PSVita TV) without having to do anything, like replugging, getting up etc.. So switching between i.e. a native Mac OS 9 game or a native Windows 7 game, everything is already set up. Could also plug-in USB floppy and ZIP drives that way. I just don't also plug-in my USB 3.0 Blu-Ray burner, because my KVM is limited to USB 2.0, and I already have a FW400 Blu-Ray burner for the Macs, too.

Maybe this subject could have its own topic. Surely there's one out there already, I presume. But to keep it on-topic (kinda): I'm sure Mac OS 8.6 on my MDD would still work with this, so I'm looking forward to it.
 
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Let's go back to the original topic.

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I replaced the internal HDD.
I partitioned the external HDD (USB-IDE-CF) into 4 volumes, "OS8.6","OS9.0.4","OS9.1" and "OS9.2.2".

Booting from the internal HDD:
Only "Mac OS 8.6", the power goes off after its icon parade.

Booting from the external HDD:
Only "OS8.6", there appears a "?" disk icon.

Why it's just Mac OS 8.6?
 
SAD NEWS.... Tried everything, copied everything from the sawtooth 8.6 to my PowerBook G4 1GHZ Titanium and it will NOT boot 8.6 at all. I think the powerbook is too new for 8.6 - does anyone else have any suggestions ?
 
You see, to me I try to collect the top of the line in each catagory, as 500mhz is useless to me - The following top of the line macs I own: Pismo G4(Was G3 500), 1ghz Titanium G4, G5 Quad, and currently Mac Pro 2010 since I have no desire to own a 2019. Also, have a 2015 MacBook Pro.
 
Well, since I have a Pismo with G4 550 I can try to install 8.6 on it, but with the G4 titanium I have 8.6 is no go. However, is there Qemu for PowerPC Macs and I can try to install it using that, or is Qemu for old OS X ?
 
I tried "Mac OS 8.6 - Mac OS X 10.5 on Pismo G4/500MHz" again.

I read an article that some Toshiba HDD may have a problem of firmware and can't recognize the "master" configration.
Moreover, there seems to be a "limitation" that the boot volume must be within 72GB of the storage.

So, I changed Toshiba MK-1234GAX (120GB) with WD WD1200BEVE (120GB).
And repartitioned the HDD so that all 11 boot volumes within 64GB.
1: PowerBook G3 (Mac OS 9.0.4)
2: Mac OS 9.1
3: Mac OS 9.2.2
4: Mac OS X 10.0
5: Mac OS X 10.1
6: Mac OS X 10.2
7: Mac OS X 10.3
8: Mac OS X 10.4
9: Mac OS X 10.4S (Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger Server)
10: Mac OS X 10.5
11: Mac OS 8.6
12: Data

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Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger Server:
It worked well by using the modified Install Disc. (without OF):)

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Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard:
It also worked well by using the modified Install Disc. (without OF) :)

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Mac OS 8.6:
I installed OS image from "Power Mac G4" Software Restore CD and modified its Mac OS ROM as "Compatible".
And selected "Mac OS 8.6" as a startup disk.

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But, Pismo is powered off at the end of icon parade. --- again :(
I can see a battery icon with "x" mark at the moment the screen disappears.

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The "date and time" is reset after reboot.
That should never happen normally if the battery and/or PRAM battery is normal.

Why only Mac OS 8.6 doesn't work?
Why does the power go down? o_O
 
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That was a good idea... I commend the efforts. Never give up!

What if not the volume, but the drive itself was less than 72GB?

Does anyone know the max RAM 8.6 can take? Is it also 1.5GB?

Can we do something so the battery is detected properly under 8.6 on a Pismo?
 
Jubadub said:
That was a good idea... I commend the efforts. Never give up!

What if not the volume, but the drive itself was less than 72GB?

Does anyone know the max RAM 8.6 can take? Is it also 1.5GB?

Can we do something so the battery is detected properly under 8.6 on a Pismo?
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Thank you for the lifeboat.
Mac OS 8.6 can be booted a few times only on last Mar 22, in the last year and a half.

In my understanding, the drive itself should be less than 128GB?
 
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