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Mac OS X 10.3.2... Soon?
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I have problems with Safarion my computer, when ever I try to lauch it, it immediatly crashes, so I am using Camino at the moment. (It was upgraded from 10.2).
I really hope they will fix the Active Directory bug where I can't connect any 10.3 macs in our school to the Active Directory network (wont bind).
I really hope they will fix the Active Directory bug where I can't connect any 10.3 macs in our school to the Active Directory network (wont bind).
Happens to me too
I have noticed this same problem when i try to acess media on the web( streaming video, audio, etc...)I have noticed this has happened to two other users as well. So it could be a hardware problem or some third party RAM we may be all using or who knows. Hopefully it's just a small problem that could be fixed for our comptuters.
I have noticed this same problem when i try to acess media on the web( streaming video, audio, etc...)I have noticed this has happened to two other users as well. So it could be a hardware problem or some third party RAM we may be all using or who knows. Hopefully it's just a small problem that could be fixed for our comptuters.
I guess i'll be waiting another month before I upgrade to Panther. Too many problems, not saying that I would see any of these, but it's just not worth the risk. I'll stick with the stable Jaguar.
With all these problems, it reminds me when I had to upgrade my other computer to XP from 98. Seems like going from 10.2 to 10.3 would be much easier.
With all these problems, it reminds me when I had to upgrade my other computer to XP from 98. Seems like going from 10.2 to 10.3 would be much easier.
Panther runs flawlessly on my Lombard series PowerBook (400 MHz/192 megs RAM). As far as Safari or Mail crashing, that has never happened to me. I was looking at the Apple support forums just to see what problems others are having and most people report that Safari has been crashing for many due to bad fonts being installed, so once the bad fonts are disabled, Safari appears to be perfectly stable for them. It is worth checking out. Everything for me seems to be working quite well, but I did a clean install because I didn't want any issues involving an upgrade from Jaguar.
Safar has been one of most stable OS X apps for me, even while in beta. The one problem I am continuing to have with it is printing: many pages that print fine in IE are impossibly small when printed from Safari. I haven't had a chance to call AppleCare yet, t I was wondering if anyone else experiences this.
Re: Panther not seeing PM9600 (8.6) via Appletalk
Another Solution...
Try turning going to your 9600 and Control Panels->Sharing(or)File Sharing->and click Allow to connect over TCP/IP
Should fix problem.
Another Solution...
Try turning going to your 9600 and Control Panels->Sharing(or)File Sharing->and click Allow to connect over TCP/IP
Should fix problem.
Still can't see Windows network shares...
I still can't browse any of the windows shares at work that I could see under Jag. I have to remember each share name individually! I've played a bit with the Directory Access app with no success. How ridiculous!
I also think the network browse interface is appalling. The difficulty in knowing where to "disconnect" as well as a lack of mount point on the desktop are two of the biggest problems. I was really hoping Panther was going to clean up the network GUI.. not make an even bigger mess of it!
Rant Over. I still love my Mac.
I still can't browse any of the windows shares at work that I could see under Jag. I have to remember each share name individually! I've played a bit with the Directory Access app with no success. How ridiculous!
I also think the network browse interface is appalling. The difficulty in knowing where to "disconnect" as well as a lack of mount point on the desktop are two of the biggest problems. I was really hoping Panther was going to clean up the network GUI.. not make an even bigger mess of it!
Rant Over. I still love my Mac.
Re: Still can't see Windows network shares...
I have AD on Windows 2000 server, running a 3rd party AFP/IP server and connect without any problems. I can also connect with SMB if I want.
If you are using Win2003 server there is a setting that is on by default which keeps macs from authenticating. Go to macwindows.com for more info.
Once you manage to connect, create aliases to the shares and place them in the Finder toolbar or sidebar. Works great for me.
Originally posted by soosy
I still can't browse any of the windows shares at work that I could see under Jag. I have to remember each share name individually! I've played a bit with the Directory Access app with no success. How ridiculous!
I also think the network browse interface is appalling. The difficulty in knowing where to "disconnect" as well as a lack of mount point on the desktop are two of the biggest problems. I was really hoping Panther was going to clean up the network GUI.. not make an even bigger mess of it!
Rant Over. I still love my Mac.
I have AD on Windows 2000 server, running a 3rd party AFP/IP server and connect without any problems. I can also connect with SMB if I want.
If you are using Win2003 server there is a setting that is on by default which keeps macs from authenticating. Go to macwindows.com for more info.
Once you manage to connect, create aliases to the shares and place them in the Finder toolbar or sidebar. Works great for me.
First off, everyone who writes in a reply that goes something like "Well I've never had a problem with Safari so you must be stupid" take a minute before you hit that reply button and think "can I help my fellow Mac user with a valid suggestion?" and if the answer is no, don't hit reply. Maybe not everyone is as incredibly lucky with the pinnicle of stability your machine your so proud of. Instead of calling other people to blame (which they're not) write Apple an email about how well your system runs under 10.3 and see if they'll feature you in an ad.
/rant
Apple hears from me a lot... but it's from the Submit Bug button that pops up from Safari twice and Font Book three times. I'd like them to rectify whatever the heck is causing that and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I highly doubt it's something to do with my G5 2.0, the two gigs of RAM, or the user. The good news is Apple knows about these things and it appears is working on them.
/rant
Apple hears from me a lot... but it's from the Submit Bug button that pops up from Safari twice and Font Book three times. I'd like them to rectify whatever the heck is causing that and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I highly doubt it's something to do with my G5 2.0, the two gigs of RAM, or the user. The good news is Apple knows about these things and it appears is working on them.
Re: WHAT!
No.
I've seen this said a number of times about a number of apps out of Apple and others. This is simply the 'way things are' in the world of software development, and especially OS development. Apple is one of the best at this because it's installed set of hardware is fairly consistent, but it's still not a constant. Apple can't possibly know, for example, all the different kinds of Windows networks in-work today. Just ask the Samba team about it.
So, the best any software manufacturer can hope for in a major release is that it works on "the vast majority" of it's user's machines, and since it doesn't have access to an infinite amount of test machines, it will inevitably rely on it's own customers to find some bugs.
Why can't they check their products before release? I'm sure you don't honestly believe that they don't. This entire thread is about how 10.3.2 is currently being tested by testers right now! Hopefully this upgrade will fix the small number of bugs that slipped through the extensive beta test program of Panther.
Why would it put anyone off from upgrading? Panther's been out for a month, and already a large amount of bugs have been identified and fixed (10.3.1) and now we're waiting for the second round!
Go back to Windows to be reminded of how frustrating things can really be.
No.
I've seen this said a number of times about a number of apps out of Apple and others. This is simply the 'way things are' in the world of software development, and especially OS development. Apple is one of the best at this because it's installed set of hardware is fairly consistent, but it's still not a constant. Apple can't possibly know, for example, all the different kinds of Windows networks in-work today. Just ask the Samba team about it.
So, the best any software manufacturer can hope for in a major release is that it works on "the vast majority" of it's user's machines, and since it doesn't have access to an infinite amount of test machines, it will inevitably rely on it's own customers to find some bugs.
Why can't they check their products before release? I'm sure you don't honestly believe that they don't. This entire thread is about how 10.3.2 is currently being tested by testers right now! Hopefully this upgrade will fix the small number of bugs that slipped through the extensive beta test program of Panther.
Why would it put anyone off from upgrading? Panther's been out for a month, and already a large amount of bugs have been identified and fixed (10.3.1) and now we're waiting for the second round!
Go back to Windows to be reminded of how frustrating things can really be.
safari quits
This should help:
1. You may have an old Jaguar preference interferring with Panther:
trash: com.apple.quicktime.plugin.preferences.plist
2. You may need to run the latest Panther Cache Cleaner:
Click the "Caches" tab, click button Deep Cleaning, checkmark all, click the "Clean" button.
You will see several pop-ups. click the yes/okay's.
Reboot. All is well .. for a while.
=-=
Attitude adjustment for the non-helpful people: swift kick to the seat of your pants because you did not offer any help.
Get off the keyboard.
This should help:
1. You may have an old Jaguar preference interferring with Panther:
trash: com.apple.quicktime.plugin.preferences.plist
2. You may need to run the latest Panther Cache Cleaner:
Click the "Caches" tab, click button Deep Cleaning, checkmark all, click the "Clean" button.
You will see several pop-ups. click the yes/okay's.
Reboot. All is well .. for a while.
=-=
Attitude adjustment for the non-helpful people: swift kick to the seat of your pants because you did not offer any help.
Get off the keyboard.
Re: safari quits
you took the words right out of my mouth err... finger tips
anyway what I usually do when i have a problem with an app, is I do a search for that app in my HD, then I find the files, prefs and other stuff like caches, then i just dump them or actually what I do is is just move them to a folder i made YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL DOING THIS YOU DON'T WANT TO DELETE SOMETHING IMPORTANT REMEMBER WHAT YOU DELETED AND WHETE IT WAS CUZ YOU MAY WANT TO RETURN IT! after I do that I launch the app, then I take the files one by one and return them in place of the newly created ones, I keep re-launching the app every time I put back a file and when it crashes I'll know that it's the last file I put back! I do this to know what exactly is causing the problem
all this reminds me of OS 9 and extensions, but I don't this in X as much as used in 9, actually i rarely do it, last time was with IE
THANK YOU
MaT
you took the words right out of my mouth err... finger tips
anyway what I usually do when i have a problem with an app, is I do a search for that app in my HD, then I find the files, prefs and other stuff like caches, then i just dump them or actually what I do is is just move them to a folder i made YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL DOING THIS YOU DON'T WANT TO DELETE SOMETHING IMPORTANT REMEMBER WHAT YOU DELETED AND WHETE IT WAS CUZ YOU MAY WANT TO RETURN IT! after I do that I launch the app, then I take the files one by one and return them in place of the newly created ones, I keep re-launching the app every time I put back a file and when it crashes I'll know that it's the last file I put back! I do this to know what exactly is causing the problem
all this reminds me of OS 9 and extensions, but I don't this in X as much as used in 9, actually i rarely do it, last time was with IE
THANK YOU
MaT
i hope they fix the annoying problem i've been having with mail's usability.
normally you're supposed to be able to click inside of the preview pane and then you can use the up/down arrow keys to navigate up and down the email. yeah, with the new version of mail its ONLY if you click in the header section of the preview pane. if you dont and you press up/down, it moves up and down in the email list and it changes emails. thats not how it's supposed to be. i submitted a usability bug report. thats my biggest annoyance with panther thus far.
expose works fine for me, but then again i've got the mobile radeon 9000 with 64MB video memory with a 1GHz G4 and 768MB RAM. i love when you hold down shift and press one of the expose keys, and it goes really slow
normally you're supposed to be able to click inside of the preview pane and then you can use the up/down arrow keys to navigate up and down the email. yeah, with the new version of mail its ONLY if you click in the header section of the preview pane. if you dont and you press up/down, it moves up and down in the email list and it changes emails. thats not how it's supposed to be. i submitted a usability bug report. thats my biggest annoyance with panther thus far.
expose works fine for me, but then again i've got the mobile radeon 9000 with 64MB video memory with a 1GHz G4 and 768MB RAM. i love when you hold down shift and press one of the expose keys, and it goes really slow
Haha... Excuse me while I laugh. Yes, I'm sure Apple is very much interested in making Panther so small that all the users with only 256 MB or even 128 MB of memory can run at a good speed. While we're at it, let's go back to System 9.2 when everything was much faster and took so much less memory.
</sarcasm>
If you're trying to multitask and have multiple iApps open with only 256 MB of RAM, how can you be surprised that it's slow and expect Apple to fix it? They can't make the programs smaller without taking out features, so, get over it.
Really, a 256 MB stick of memory nowadays costs a whopping $31. If you can afford the $129 price for Panther, why not fork out an extra $31 just to get a decent amount of memory?
I hope they address VPC printing issues.
You can't seem to use emulation printing with Panther like you can with Jaguar. The printer has to be set up as the dedicated printer, which means you have to quit VPC to restore the printer to the Mac side of things.
I'd love to upgrade my wife's eMac to Panther, but she uses VPC too often to have to quit out every time she wants to print something from the Mac platform.
You can't seem to use emulation printing with Panther like you can with Jaguar. The printer has to be set up as the dedicated printer, which means you have to quit VPC to restore the printer to the Mac side of things.
I'd love to upgrade my wife's eMac to Panther, but she uses VPC too often to have to quit out every time she wants to print something from the Mac platform.
I hope they fix FW disk sharing
Ever since Panther, I cannot see FW drives hooked to my iMac on the other Macs on the network. Jaguar, they were all there. THis got anoying.
Ever since Panther, I cannot see FW drives hooked to my iMac on the other Macs on the network. Jaguar, they were all there. THis got anoying.
I voted negative because you should NOT need this many fixes so soon after a release. Even Microsoft didnt have this many released after XP came out (They more then made up for that in the trickle effect since then what? 30+ updates? but in 90% of those updates they are security related not functionality related.)
Said it before. Will say it again. Panther smells of being rushed to market for the X-Mas season. And they are doing post release cleanup at this point. Ill give Apple credit for jumping on top of these problems immediately but they shouldnt have been there to begin with. No one should expect a perfect release but some of the glitches have been complete show stoppers. FW hard drives and Filevault to name a couple.
Said it before. Will say it again. Panther smells of being rushed to market for the X-Mas season. And they are doing post release cleanup at this point. Ill give Apple credit for jumping on top of these problems immediately but they shouldnt have been there to begin with. No one should expect a perfect release but some of the glitches have been complete show stoppers. FW hard drives and Filevault to name a couple.
Firewire 800 improvements are all nice and good, but until they fix Firewire 400 as well, there are going to be people I just am not going to recommend to upgrade to Panther.