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Mac OS X 10.4.2 8C21
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it's nice to see bug fixes. I have, literally, dozens of bugs going on in Tiger, and more were created in 10.4.1 than were fixed (i.e. Flash MX2004 is completely broken)
I fine Tiger to be extremely buggy with a few app crashes a day, sometimes more. I've replicated this on a number of machines, and seems to be an across the board thing.
In any case, I'd like stability above all, and speed ups in the system in general. Brand new iMac w/ 2 GB of Apple RAM runs like a dog.
Amen. I thought 10.4.1 would be a huge update. With all the crippling bugs and performance issues i was expecting at least a 50MB update, not the (specialized) 20MB (on average) that we seem to have gotten.
I know there's peeps on dial up, but man, do i need things sorted out.
I fine Tiger to be extremely buggy with a few app crashes a day, sometimes more. I've replicated this on a number of machines, and seems to be an across the board thing.
In any case, I'd like stability above all, and speed ups in the system in general. Brand new iMac w/ 2 GB of Apple RAM runs like a dog.
Amen. I thought 10.4.1 would be a huge update. With all the crippling bugs and performance issues i was expecting at least a 50MB update, not the (specialized) 20MB (on average) that we seem to have gotten.
I know there's peeps on dial up, but man, do i need things sorted out.
BWhaler said:
tech4all said:
I have Adobe CS1 and Adobe CS2 on Tiger without problems - installed CS 2 fresh. Don't know about Studio MX 2004.
BWhaler said:
Beta quality?
I know isues, large and minor, have surfaced in Tiger. But, other than Safari refusing to refresh a screen (yes, an annoying and major problem that needs to be addressed if it is common), I have had no problems with Tiger. All my apps ported over well enough and most importantly, work.
I just wonder how wonky your mac has to be behaving for you to consider Tiger a "beta release". So far for me it has benefited me more than Panther (and I assume the consensus is Panther has reached Gold standard long ago?), and I am enjoying the user experience again (though Panther was damn good already).
I guess my question is, are you having actual trouble with your OS or do you just like to complain?
i suppose i dont have any major problems with it. but it quite often seems to cut off from my wireless network. dosnt automatically join back either. seems to be when the internets being drained by other computers on the network that i seem to get cut off.
make the GUI scaling thing work better too. actually i had a dream last night where as well as the little resize window drag corner, the upper right one had a resize scaling option. hmm? seem to have my best ideas in my sleep
thats all i can think of really. Tigers a beauty. just wish they could throw some more Core Image effects (turn off-able in preferences of course)!
make the GUI scaling thing work better too. actually i had a dream last night where as well as the little resize window drag corner, the upper right one had a resize scaling option. hmm? seem to have my best ideas in my sleep
thats all i can think of really. Tigers a beauty. just wish they could throw some more Core Image effects (turn off-able in preferences of course)!
tech4all said:
I don't know anyone with the same problems, so you should be fine. It's the oddest problem, but Studio MX, Studio MX 2004, CS 1, and CS 2 won't install correctly. The apps refuse to run, except for GoLive, which runs just fine. I still haven't figured out what's going on.
-Chase
10.4.2!! wow
It cool to see that Apple is going to polish out any bugs in its early release of Tiger, as someone pointed out. Except few bugs, oh and safari crashing 2 times in the last week nothing esle is bothering me. Lets hope they going to fix that dropping wireless signal thing. Q2D Extreme would be nice too.
Its better that Apple releases their OS early so people can complain about bugs and get to fix them early. Unlike Windows world, that once OS reaches its final stage and its released, you have to wait months for the next update.
That way OS X alway feels new
It cool to see that Apple is going to polish out any bugs in its early release of Tiger, as someone pointed out. Except few bugs, oh and safari crashing 2 times in the last week nothing esle is bothering me. Lets hope they going to fix that dropping wireless signal thing. Q2D Extreme would be nice too.
Its better that Apple releases their OS early so people can complain about bugs and get to fix them early. Unlike Windows world, that once OS reaches its final stage and its released, you have to wait months for the next update.
That way OS X alway feels new
tiger has been EXTREMELY buggy for me. i believe it was due to upgrading instead of a fresh install, but still, apple should have worked out the kinks. they pushed it out too soon. some days it isnt even usable.
for example, dashboard crashes. how does dashboard crash?!?! i thought it was an underlying feature of the OS?
for example, dashboard crashes. how does dashboard crash?!?! i thought it was an underlying feature of the OS?
There's still one annoying little bug that 10.4.1 did not fix - when I try to make a custom search for other kinds, after I start typing, Mac OS X beachballs for about 5 seconds before displaying the rest of the list. It's definitely minor, and definitely annoying...
Orlando Furioso said:
For my part, I really like Tiger, but it's definitely beta-quality. I currently have 24 bug reports listed at the Apple developer website, and these are just the ones that have caused me problems in my day-to-day use of Tiger.
Marble said:
amen... should have been something fixed in 10.4.1. really not happy i have to boot the 10.3 instal cd to change my brighness...
The numbering argument is retarded.
10.3.9, 10.3.10, 10.3.11.
Can't see anything wrong with that myself. And there isn't. sub version numbers can go beyond 10. Fullstop.
Hopefully apple will sort out Automator performance and actions that don't work when running Automator scripts as Apps.
10.3.9, 10.3.10, 10.3.11.
Can't see anything wrong with that myself. And there isn't. sub version numbers can go beyond 10. Fullstop.
Hopefully apple will sort out Automator performance and actions that don't work when running Automator scripts as Apps.
sacear said:
Oh, and the finder shouldn't crash when you open Packages.
This occurs at least once, if not, more, out of ten times of opening Packages.
Extremely annoying.
Some of these bugs in 10.4.2 could have been work in progress prior to 10.4.1, but not completed, so I'm hoping this will be a more significant bug fix.
This occurs at least once, if not, more, out of ten times of opening Packages.
Extremely annoying.
Some of these bugs in 10.4.2 could have been work in progress prior to 10.4.1, but not completed, so I'm hoping this will be a more significant bug fix.
CaptainHaddock said:
Hmm... 24 problems in day-to-day use? I'm thinking its probably a little different than most people's use, because I've not seen any major problems (except for Cisco VPN breaking) that have caused me grief. The only problem I continually have is that Adobe Reader and Photoshop Elements have been absolutely flakey since 10.3.5-6 timeframe. Mostly involving "Adobe Update". Of course those aren't "Tiger" problems, so they don't count against the list of issues that 10.4 has introduced.
I hope this fixes my internal modem problem on my Powerbook. Ever since I installed Tiger, I haven't been able to connect to the internet through my modem!
Looks like Apple seriously jumped the gun on the release of Tiger. Potentially we are looking at two updates within only a handful of months since it release. Both of which are fixing numerous bugs. They aren't exactly instilling confidence in me in their QC abilities.
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PS- I think people should start posting in their sig if they did a clean install from scratch or not. The disparity between those who haven't had any issues and those who are having major headaches is pretty large and I'm wondering why.
PS- I think people should start posting in their sig if they did a clean install from scratch or not. The disparity between those who haven't had any issues and those who are having major headaches is pretty large and I'm wondering why.
deanbo said:
Pretty sure Apple is more concerned about squashing bugs before they start tweaking performance. My crystal balls ays expect it in 10.4.5 but thats obviously a blatant out-of-the blue guess.
Orlando Furioso said:
Not a complainer. Just an experienced software guy that knows a release shipped to make a date.
Why beta:
1. Q2D is turned off.
2. .Mac syncing does not work completely
3. Memory leaks in widgets and Safari
4. Mail needing to turn of plug-ins in .1 since Mail was not completely importing mailboxes and crashing continually with most plug-ins
5. Spotlight does not completely index mail and entire drives in many conditions.
3. The types of bugs. Example: Mail actually will save attachments inside of a keynote file if the keynote file was the last thing saved.
As you can see from the above, these are not cosmetic type bugs. These are core functionality which simply does not work to spec. I have filled more radar reports with Apple with a 'critical' status than I can count.
Don't get me wrong, every piece of software has bugs. I am sure Apple knows about quite a few on 10.3.9 which just aren't critical enough to fix. But Tiger really needed a couple more months.
And the big question is why did Apple ship Tiger on that date? It's either to make earnings numbers or because some key products require Tiger.
I suspect it is the former, but I hope it is the later. Seeing Jobs last Sunday at D3, he alluded to a lot of exciting things coming this year. So I have my fingers crossed.
sacear said:
I was the opposite, in fact. Given Tiger is the OS we are going to have for the next 18-24 months, I wanted Apple to put as much cool functionality into Tiger as possible.
Tiger is "Revolutionary?"
What exactley is so great about tiger? Am I missing somthing here? It's seems to be panther with some widgets and more bugs.
Is anybody really all the excited about "spotlight?" Is "Automator" really going to sell pc users on the mac?
I guess I just don't get it. I have used tiger for 10s of hours now. I own a copy, but I really have no desire to install it on my home system.
What exactley is so great about tiger? Am I missing somthing here? It's seems to be panther with some widgets and more bugs.
Is anybody really all the excited about "spotlight?" Is "Automator" really going to sell pc users on the mac?
I guess I just don't get it. I have used tiger for 10s of hours now. I own a copy, but I really have no desire to install it on my home system.