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Why would Apple optimize Leopard for Atom based computer when it would run Snow Leopard? --- Or would it?
 
**** it

After 8 months using my macbook I can't use the 1920x1200 Resolution anymore with my HP w2408h and it seems that more people have this problem. WTF ??????
 
Cool. Let's hope we see an Atom powered Mac. I hope has collected all the chip manufacturers so that it can make a chip for all the new macs they make so that OS X will not boot unless it detects this chip. Hopefully this will stop Hackintoshes.

If someone has bought a legitimate copy of leopard what does it matter if they try and instal it on an MSI Wind? Surely that's not hurting anyone?
 
This should mean a good battery life on the tablet that we all think is coming. It's the closest apple might get to the netbook. Although with netbook sales going thru the roof it still wouldn't shock me to see an apple netbook.
 
Extra Atom support would probably be for a hardware update to the AppleTV line than anything else. It's hardware is 1.5 years old and it can't do 1080p.

Im not sure if the current Atom chip can handle 1080p so well either can it? I wouldn't mind a 12 inch MacBook Air with a dual-core Atom under $899
 
It may just be a completely unexpected (and unplanned) consequence of apple optimising the power management code in leopard.
However, if it is deliberate it means they're building or prototyping something that uses an intel atom... That would be interesting... I don't believe the netbook rumours but I believe the tablet ones, and this would suggest they would be planning to run (or have played around with running) OSX 10.5.7 on it! Now that would be cool ;) a lot of assumptions, but hey that's what forums on rumour sites are for... I'm keeping my fingers crossed ;)
 
I haven't noticed any gains in my Macbook's battery life since 10.5.7.

I haven't seen any improvement on my Macbook either, but remember that real Macs use EFI for power management while a Hackintosh has to use other methods, some of which aren't exactly pretty and some of the power management hacks don't always work 100%.

This info regarding the posting in a forum that the article refers to is too sketchy at this point in time to be given much credibility. For all we know the better battery life might be due to something like SpeedStep suddenly beginning to work properly after the 10.5.7 update on this guy's machine.
 
I've been mostly content to carry around some form of Apple 'book, be it iBook, PowerBook, MacBook or MB Pro (depending on whatever I check out from work). But I have to confess that after lunking around a hot, heavy, MacBook Pro during a conference while we were having a 90+ degree heat wave got me to really envy the folks with the eePCs and such. And despite the availability of far more superior systems through work, I still find myself traveling with my 12" iBook for basic tasks (Terminal doesn't need a C2D processor, neither does Word, ARD, or Firefox).

So if Apple released a netbook this summer, I'd be very, very, interested.
 
Of course....right as I was ready to buy a Dell Mini 10v for hackintoshing

Guess I'll keep waiting out the storm!

Dell 10v with 945GSE is new I guess? Maybe no one was buying the regular dell 10 because you can't hackintosh it (integrated graphics 500), so they brought out the 10v. Interesting...
 
Cool. Let's hope we see an Atom powered Mac. I hope has collected all the chip manufacturers so that it can make a chip for all the new macs they make so that OS X will not boot unless it detects this chip. Hopefully this will stop Hackintoshes.

I'll just add my thoughts to the chorus so far: WTF are you so dead set against Hackintoshes? Because Apple is? Pfffft. :rolleyes:

I salute you eggheads who have mastered the art of putting Mac OS X on different hardware. IMO, the more exposure to what really is possible, the better. It's Mac OS X I love. The hardware comes and goes ... and my opinion is: I'd rather see more options than fewer.

:apple:
 
Didn't the original hacks involve removing some intel kexts related to power optimisation in order to increase performance?

If said modules are re-added then the hackintoshes might gain battery life at the expense of benchmarked performance.
 
I dont care for Atom it seems like a step backwards for Apple maybe a Dual core Atom processor but single plus OSX seems like it would lag a lot!

Exactly. I refuse to go back in time by 4 years just to have a cheap netbook. I'm much more interested in Intel's "CULV" line-up which are reduced cost versions of their Core 2 Duo ULV (ultra-low-voltage) chips.

I can see Apple loving the Atom platform for how thin and lightweight they would be able to make a computer. But hopefully if they do indeed use Atom for a small notebook or tablet, they tell Intel to go to hell and they use the dual-core version. Intel's licensing is the only reason why all the crappy netbooks on the market use a single-core atom --- i.e. they don't want to cannibalize their far more profitable lower-end Core 2/Celeron chips
 
Exactly. I refuse to go back in time by 4 years just to have a cheap netbook. I'm much more interested in Intel's "CULV" line-up which are reduced cost versions of their Core 2 Duo ULV (ultra-low-voltage) chips.

I can see Apple loving the Atom platform for how thin and lightweight they would be able to make a computer. But hopefully if they do indeed use Atom for a small notebook or tablet, they tell Intel to go to hell and they use the dual-core version. Intel's licensing is the only reason why all the crappy netbooks on the market use a single-core atom --- i.e. they don't want to cannibalize their far more profitable lower-end Core 2/Celeron chips

Are the core 2/celeron variants able to get the same battery life? And the same tiny form factors, with proper cooling? Cost isn't the only factor here.
 
I dont care for Atom it seems like a step backwards for Apple maybe a Dual core Atom processor but single plus OSX seems like it would lag a lot!

Clearly you haven't used OS X running on an Intel Atom processor then. I have no lag on my Dell Mini 9 running 10.5.7 -- in fact, for most of my uses, it is much faster than my 2.4GHz MacBook Pro.
 
I'll just add my thoughts to the chorus so far: WTF are you so dead set against Hackintoshes? Because Apple is? Pfffft. :rolleyes:

I salute you eggheads who have mastered the art of putting Mac OS X on different hardware. IMO, the more exposure to what really is possible, the better. It's Mac OS X I love. The hardware comes and goes ... and my opinion is: I'd rather see more options than fewer.

:apple:

Touche!

It looks like either they are just fanatics or working for Apple and surely there must be some that are sour grapes variety who could not build a hackintosh on their own and would cry out of jealousy/anger. I bet if you build one for them, they will stop crying and will also know what most of us, who have built one, talk about and rave about.

It shouldn't be your problem these hackintoshes are built. That is Apple's! Let them handle it if they cannot satisfy the customer requirement, for eg: a Mac Desktop (not the workstation variety of >2500) which is not an iMac. I just build a Mac 3.0 GHz Intel dual core E5200, overclocked 256 mb 720mhz 8600GT, 4 gb RAM, 640 GB WD, for mere $450 (with shipping charges and all of the necessary componenets). And I bet it will beat the heck out of your mini or even the base model iMac (with less than half that price). It works well and can upgrade too (with minimal caution). I understand Apple needs margins as well, but as long as Apple does not bring a choice for Mac Desktop (with full upgradability) at a starting price of at least ~700, I will keep hackintoshing.

(And don't harp too much about custom chipset by Apple and all. After observing this community for about two years, I can tell you they will break it whatever comes their way. Just like with efi emulator, drivers for tons of different GPUs and all, it will be a matter of time before a work around will be found)
 
I'll just add my thoughts to the chorus so far: WTF are you so dead set against Hackintoshes? Because Apple is? Pfffft. :rolleyes:

I salute you eggheads who have mastered the art of putting Mac OS X on different hardware. IMO, the more exposure to what really is possible, the better. It's Mac OS X I love. The hardware comes and goes ... and my opinion is: I'd rather see more options than fewer.

:apple:

I agree, the OS makes the real difference. However, I still love the look and feel of Apple's industrial designing and will gladly pay the premium. On the other hand, the premium for the Mac Pro systems doesn't seem worth it (unless the Intel Neh. processors are relatively on par). As workstations are most often hidden under desks, I would rather build a comparable system and with the extra cash purchase purchase a nice 30" display (or two). Although I know Dell makes nice displays, I still love the aesthetics of the Aluminum Cinema displays.

Hey Dells, I got your PM, I haven't had the chance in writing back yet. I'll shoot you a response later tonight. :)
 
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