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Yeah--but [coverflow] is just eye candy.... :apple:

People need to stop saying that. If the fider's coverflow isn't a feature you'll use, then you don't have to, but I know a lot of people who are going to find coverflow a very useful navigation view that we are going to use frequently.

For instance if you have a bunch of page layout documents with poorly descriptive names and you want to find a particular one, instead of having to open them all up which gets very unwieldy, now you just switch to coverflow and get to see a preview of every document so you can find the one you're looking for almost instantly and open just that file.

No one is probably going to surf through their apps using coverflow, but they still need coverflow sized icon because if you ever happened to navigate through a folder in coverflow view that contained apps, but they showed up as small icons or as scaled up pixilated garbage then it would looks terrible and cause user confusion.

Coverflow is gonna be really useful to a lot of people, so I suggest you don't knock it until you and the general user population have tried it.
 
Is it just me, or does all this, UI updating seem to be more hassle than it's worth? I am quite happy with Tigers UI, I'll admit it is getting a bit outdated, but still, they could've just updated the folders and some icons and I'd be happy...

If that's all it'd take to make you happy then you can do that right now for free. Just go download a new icon set from Apple's website, or anywhere else.
 
People need to stop saying that. If the fider's coverflow isn't a feature you'll use, then you don't have to, but I know a lot of people who are going to find coverflow a very useful navigation view that we are going to use frequently.

For instance if you have a bunch of page layout documents with poorly descriptive names and you want to find a particular one, instead of having to open them all up which gets very unwieldy, now you just switch to coverflow and get to see a preview of every page layout document so you can find it almost instantly and open just that file.

No one is probably going to surf through their apps using coverflow, but they still need coverflow sized icon because if you ever happened to navigate through a folder in coverflow view that contained apps, but they showed up as small icons or as scaled up pixilated garbage then it would looks terrible and cause user confusion.

Coverflow is gonna be really useful to a lot of people, so I suggest you don't knock it until you and the general user population have tried it.
It seems more intuitive to me.
 
People need to stop saying that. If the fider's coverflow isn't a feature you'll use, then you don't have to, but I know a lot of people who are going to find coverflow a very useful navigation view that we are going to use frequently.

For instance if you have a bunch of page layout documents with poorly descriptive names and you want to find a particular one, instead of having to open them all up which gets very unwieldy, now you just switch to coverflow and get to see a preview of every document so you can find the one you're looking for almost instantly and open just that file.

No one is probably going to surf through their apps using coverflow, but they still need coverflow sized icon because if you ever happened to navigate through a folder in coverflow view that contained apps, but they showed up as small icons or as scaled up pixilated garbage then it would looks terrible and cause user confusion.

Coverflow is gonna be really useful to a lot of people, so I suggest you don't knock it until you and the general user population have tried it.

Preach. Reading MacRumors these days is becoming incredibly tedious with the constant whinging.
 
hmmm...

Icons.

Great.

Look nice.

this waiting is getting painfully slow... WHERE'S OCTOBER WHEN YOU NEED IT?! :p

Hey remember when Apple said Leopard was coming in the Spring, and then pushed it back to october? That was a move worthy of... Microsoft... :-(
 
The largerr the better

To be honest, I don't want to sit in front of a 35"-40" monitor to do my computer work.

P-Worm


I just wish that my 47" display had a resolution/inch as high as my Apple 30" display. I find that my 23" display seem sonstraining. The 30" one isn't quite big enough at times. With Excel spreadsheet I can reduce image size to 75% or so to view more at a time. But its hard to go far enough to make real gains over the 30" model. I was thinking the opposite of you. Oh, how nice it would be to have twin 37" or so displays with a resolution like on the 23" & 30" models.

Small displays are like blinders. Or maybe we should say more like running Windows & have your one window take up the whole screen by default. But with so many sizes available now, we can gennerally both find what we want or need.

The iMac going to a 20" minimum size indicates that some believe that bigger sells better. But this larger smaller size probably has little to do with what you or me want. It is just that Apple as well as any other computer, hard drive, display or other assessory needs a minimum amount of money from a sale. As displays, hard drives & other items like memory cards, get bigger the smaller goes away. Who here would pay %500 for a 9" LCD display. Or $100 for a 20 MB hard drive.

I just jope that by getting larger, there will be enough smaller models avaiable for you or that you change your thinking & see that a larger screen is like taking blinders off & seeing so much more.

Have a good time with yours. I know that I have a good time with mine.

Bill the TaxMan
 
To be honest, I don't want to sit in front of a 35"-40" monitor to do my computer work.
The key here is that even if screens aren't getting larger, the resolutions of them is! A 17" display of today probably has a noticeably higher resolution than a 17" display of 5 years ago. The higher the PPI (pixels per inch) gets, the more important resolution independence gets.
 
People need to stop saying that. If the fider's coverflow isn't a feature you'll use, then you don't have to, but I know a lot of people who are going to find coverflow a very useful navigation view that we are going to use frequently.

For instance if you have a bunch of page layout documents with poorly descriptive names and you want to find a particular one, instead of having to open them all up which gets very unwieldy, now you just switch to coverflow and get to see a preview of every document so you can find the one you're looking for almost instantly and open just that file.

No one is probably going to surf through their apps using coverflow, but they still need coverflow sized icon because if you ever happened to navigate through a folder in coverflow view that contained apps, but they showed up as small icons or as scaled up pixilated garbage then it would looks terrible and cause user confusion.

Coverflow is gonna be really useful to a lot of people, so I suggest you don't knock it until you and the general user population have tried it.

And you haven't even mentioned a folder full off images with titles like: (IMG_768).

Even better, just hit space bar and preview full screen.

And before someone says “I always give my images meaningful names”, well good for you, but you may receive a disk of images / movies etc. from someone else with meaningless names.

It's also another thing to show off the graphical capabilities of OS X, like Dock and Exposé which is good for retail staff.
 
I'm still not happy with the way the Back/Forward arrows in the finder are off center in the buttons...
 
Those folder icons are disturbingly non-useful for their intended purpose. Unless you happen to view your folders at huge sizes all the time. Not good.
 
"In my opinion leopard is looking more and more like just more eye candy....sure it has alot of great new "features" and apps. but for the most part its alot of eye candy. not alot of new software. thats just my opinion. it still looks great and all. im still going to buy it."

wow, are you kidding, its the absolute opposite, its mainly the rewritten finder, 64bit, core animation and unix complience if anything. the eye candy is for the average consumer that has no idea about the huge reworkings they dont see and need a visual reason to upgrade
 
Not sure if this is common knowledge (I didn't know it until recently), but the new max icon size is 512x512.
 
One of the reasons I switched from Windows to OSX is because Tiger is pure eye candy. Leopard looks real nice from what I have seen in the screenshots, and going to the 3D look is the future. Windows is UGLY ......PERIOD!
I like the new Expose icon and so far Leopard looks like delicious Godiva choclate :p

For those of you whining about Leapard already....give it a rest. It hasn't even been released in its full package yet. You are only seeing bits and pieces of it. I read somewhere Steve Jobs was saving the top 10 feature of Leopard for October and they are not in these builds.............why? Because pics get leaked and people form an opionion before its even released in its full glory. :cool:
 
Shouldn't the icons be a vector format like the rest of 10.5's GUI elements? For resolution independence?

Not all the GUI elements are vector - many are tiff (for example). In any case, you are right that vector art or art drawn by quartz 2d is fine (where you can use it) but a lot of niceties can't be done as well with vector. e.g. photorealistic, lighting effects, etc.
 
Nice to see that the airport menu is now able to tell the difference between secure and open networks. That's something I've been waiting for.

I'm not that bothered about icons, after all if I find I really don't like them, I can always change them.

Icons don't make or break an OS.
 
Nice to see that the airport menu is now able to tell the difference between secure and open networks. That's something I've been waiting for.

Tangentially...This is not new, but I had never really noticed it so starkly. Doesn't it look odd in that screenshot that the menubar is so much more transparent than the Airport menu? It seems like they ought to either fade the menubar into opacity like MS Office 04 does with palettes when in use, or else have the menu be more transparent as well...
 
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