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I think they want to get this out before Lion, and also with some margins to Lion (a couple of weeks at least). So that they don't stress their servers unnecessarily much and have a lot of OS X users still upgrading to 10.6.8 when 10.7 is released.
 
I think they want to get this out before Lion, and also with some margins to Lion (a couple of weeks at least). So that they don't stress their servers unnecessarily much and have a lot of OS X users still upgrading to 10.6.8 when 10.7 is released.

This has to come out before Lion, they said it's getting the app store ready to release Lion.:apple:
 
*pleads with tears in eyes and wringing hands* OpenGL 3.x please! I can accept it in Lion but for the sake of all that is 3D, uncripple my god damn GPU!
 
Ok, I'll take a 10.6 upgrade, but seriously, I'm just ready for Lion to come out. I'm really excited about the new mail app (and hoping it corrects this strange memory leak the current mail app seems to have developed on my mbp in the last couple weeks).
 
I hope Apple keeps up with 10.6.x updates after Lion is released. Since Lion is locked to the App Store and will not be released on physical media or be available for site licensing, there is no way for institutional clients to ever upgrade beyond Snow Leopard.

But I realize that eventually 10.6 will be depreciated and because Lion is targeted solely at individual home users, that will be the end of Mac OS as a workstation option.
 
I hope Apple keeps up with 10.6.x updates after Lion is released. Since Lion is locked to the App Store and will not be released on physical media or be available for site licensing, there is no way for institutional clients to ever upgrade beyond Snow Leopard.
You can't seriously believe Apple won't come up with a solution for institutional buyers. There are support contracts in place that require Apple to provide OS upgrades, so they will have to make it work somehow.
 
Why do people assume this has to be out before Lion? It's a Snow Leopard update and has nothing to do with Lion. Apple has released previous OS updates after new releases on several occasions in the past. Tiger got updated after the Leopard release and so did Leo after Snow Leo.

The only real reason I want Lion is for it's better 64-bit code. Besides that it offers nothing but senseless eye candy.

Snow Leopard is a very good OS and already has 64-bit about 90% right.
 
Why do people assume this has to be out before Lion? It's a Snow Leopard update and has nothing to do with Lion. Apple has released previous OS updates after new releases on several occasions in the past. Tiger got updated after the Leopard release and so did Leo after Snow Leo.

The only real reason I want Lion is for it's better 64-bit code. Besides that it offers nothing but senseless eye candy.

Snow Leopard is a very good OS and already has 64-bit about 90% right.


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I didn't realize they were moving to an app store based install. That just sounds strange.

From that info and logic you could never do a fresh install of Lion. It seems you would have to install SL and then do the app store update or whatever they are calling it. Seems more like Lion is an OS update rather than a totally new release.
 
I didn't realize they were moving to an app store based install. That just sounds strange.

From that info and logic you could never do a fresh install of Lion. It seems you would have to install SL and then do the app store update or whatever they are calling it. Seems more like Lion is an OS update rather than a totally new release.

Wow, from your previous "know-it-all" post I assumed you were somewhat informed. In the future, before you act like you know everything, check to make sure you know anything about anything.

Yes Lion will be distributed solely through the app store. Lion will have a very small partition (I believe about 700MB) that will allow the OS to be reinstalled for any reason. Do you think Apple wouldn't have thought this through?
 
Wow, from your previous "know-it-all" post I assumed you were somewhat informed. In the future, before you act like you know everything, check to make sure you know anything about anything.

Yes Lion will be distributed solely through the app store. Lion will have a very small partition (I believe about 700MB) that will allow the OS to be reinstalled for any reason. Do you think Apple wouldn't have thought this through?

To be fair there has never been a situation like this before so I apologize if not knowing 1 fact makes me a fraud. It's not exactly a bad idea for me to base my logic on 18 years experience.

When in the past have we ever needed to update our previous OS before we upgrade to the new one? None that I can ever remember and I have been using Macs since 1994.

Sorry for offending you.. work on that.
 
To be fair there has never been a situation like this before so I apologize if not knowing 1 fact makes me a fraud. It's not exactly a bad idea for me to base my logic on 18 years experience.

When in the past have we ever needed to update our previous OS before we upgrade to the new one? None that I can ever remember and I have been using Macs since 1994.

Sorry for offending you.. work on that.

well this is just 1 fact that has been rumored for many months. It was a pretty big deal to hear that it is solely distributed on the Mac App Store, so most followers of MR should know. It's just surprising that someone who was so quick to diss Lion as "senseless eye candy" didn't know that.

I wasn't talking about not knowing that you had to update to 10.6.8. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if 10.6.8 isn't a requirement for Lion, it just makes the OS better prepared for it.
 
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zen.state said:
Why do people assume this has to be out before Lion? It's a Snow Leopard update and has nothing to do with Lion. Apple has released previous OS updates after new releases on several occasions in the past. Tiger got updated after the Leopard release and so did Leo after Snow Leo.

The only real reason I want Lion is for it's better 64-bit code. Besides that it offers nothing but senseless eye candy.

Snow Leopard is a very good OS and already has 64-bit about 90% right.

Oh yah man. Senseless iCandy. Like, versions. It doesn't store versions of you document as it changes or anything. Pure eye candy. Resume doesn't save the state of your apps making restarting painless or anything. Nope. Pure eye candy. Oh yah, and firevault wasn't updated to suck less or anything... Or... I thought I was ignorant. Sheesh.
 
I don't see any new features that warrant upgrading other than it being 64-bit only. Thats all that interests me out of all the so called "new features".

Lion does offer a lot more senseless eye candy than any OSX before it. It does nothing but use more system resources than is really needed and amuses the simple minded.

Not all users have devolved into people that only want to look at pretty icons and interfaces. Aesthetics have their place but not when it turns basic function into something at the same level as crows that like shinny things.

Guys like myself and other true geeks like putting thought into things and the computer process that goes with it. The iPhone/iPad culture is starting to show itself in Lion and shows there will be touch screen Macs soon. I personally have no interest at all in touch interfaces. Have consumers really devolved so much that all they are willing to do to compute is drag their fingers across a screen like an ape?
 
Personally, I have taken enough CS classes in my life to be glad to not have to put "thought into things and the computer process that goes with it" when I actually have an unrelated job to do with the tool in front of me. :)
 
Personally, I have taken enough CS classes in my life to be glad to not have to put "thought into things and the computer process that goes with it" when I actually have an unrelated job to do with the tool in front of me. :)

When your perception of what I wrote goes directly to the lowest common denominator it implies that is your own level of thinking as well. I'm not talking about thinking about remedial repetitive functions.

Computers should promote thought and brain activity. Not reduce it.
 
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