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The difference is that major Mac software packages still use Carbon, e.g. Office and Photoshop. You can't drop support for Carbon because of those.

I'm sure Apple would love to simplify their lives by removing Carbon, but any version of Mac OS X that doesn't run Office is not a version I can ever use.

Since I believe they've dropped the Lynx trademark having this as the last cat and dropping PPC/32 bit/Carbon next time would make some sense, and they'd need to give a lot of warning for doing that.
 
Why are you jumping to all of these conclusions? Apple hasn't said anything yet.

Wait so 10.6 is going to offer NO new features, its going to be a faster and bug free version of 10.5?? This sounds like a service pack or an extension of 10.5 why the hell should we pay for 10.6 when they should be fixing the bugs and speed for 10.5...

LAME so far not impressed..
 
It's NOT GOING TO BE Snow Leopard.

Cougar and Lynx are the only two names unused by Apple that they have trademarked. Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, Lynx, and Cougar. Lynx for 10.6, Cougar for 10.7 or vice versa, then on to OS 11.

For the love of god, stop playing guessing games. It's all common sense.

Thank you for MAKING Sense...

Reading ALL the rumors and speculation about the future of Apple / Mac / iPhones etc. gets a little crazy... Glad to read something with a little, "head-screwed-on-straight" perspective.... Thanks
 
Huh?

if they get if of carbon then doesn't that mean no photoshop, Microsoft office and a bunch of other popular software?

and since when has apple followed that sort of business plan? - i very much doubt that apple will do this especially as it seems to just be a costing service pack!

it may only be the mobile platform for the iphone - snow leopard does sound like a form of "Leopard Lite".
 
Snore. As you were. Move along. Nothing to see here.

If Apple plans on charging for "speed and stability" and a reduced number of supported computers / software it would represent foolishness of epic proportions.
 
It feels so good to be right...

Scwhing! I, along with a few other people, definitely called that it would be called Snow Leopard!!!
 
Snow Leopard?!

Did anyone believe this crap? Really?

Did anyone catch the "CODE NAME" portion, or did we all have mini-attacks while reading those 2 words. Whoever just starts assuming that the next OS is really going to be named Snow Leopard is just lost without a paddle. People would walk into an Apple store, see the box on a shelf with the picture of a soft white kitty and laugh. It makes some sense with the white snow leopard desktop background I admittedly like, but really... Apple is minimalistic, if you haven't gathered that - single named OS X's will not change.

Let's all exhale while reading rumors until next week, shall we? :)
 
Huh?

if they get if of carbon then doesn't that mean no photoshop, Microsoft office and a bunch of other popular software?

and since when has apple followed that sort of business plan? - i very much doubt that apple will do this especially as it seems to just be a costing service pack!

it may only be the mobile platform for the iphone - snow leopard does sound like a form of "Leopard Lite".

didn't Adobe announce a couple months ago that they wouldn't be doing a 64-bit version of their apps next update?

Do you think there might be a reason why? Like re-doing it for Cocoa? ;)
 
"...speed and stability..." Now theres a novel idea...

Thats exactly what Leopard is like at the moment. The 10.5.3 update was excellent in my opinion. Leopard has been brilliant on my end on 2 different Macs. The recent update just solidified that.

So what are you going on about? You tried using Vista recently. Everyone who has a Mac on here should be thankful and the ones that complain should stop, give Vista a whirl.
 
I would now be surprised at all if 10.6 is Intel-only and all cocoa.. apple has been trying to make devs migrate to Cocoa from carbon with bigger and bigger sticks with nails in them.. dropping carbon 64 was a big one.. dropping PPC forces ppl to buy new hardware and cleans up these "ultra dense universal binarys" where a dev has to have support all these skews... PPC 32, 64, intel 32, 64..

But i'd also love to see ZTS..
 
Aren't "." updates spoused to be stability and performance upgrades?

I just think paying $120 for an OS that is practically just a big bug fix is ridiculous.
 
Snow Leopard which would focus on Intel makes a lot of sense. I don't think they would call it 10.6 but who knows. Cougar and Lion are the last two big cats. They could probably use Lion last.
 
Wait so 10.6 is going to offer NO new features, its going to be a faster and bug free version of 10.5?? This sounds like a service pack or an extension of 10.5 why the hell should we pay for 10.6 when they should be fixing the bugs and speed for 10.5...
Given how lovely 10.5 Server is performing on our organization's Jan 2008 XServe, if Apple really goes this route they can expect one hell of a pissed off phone call from me in January. Especially if they want me to buy it again.

That said, unless this year's WWDC is going to be extra-supercalifragilistic, my guess is that this is less of a "rumor" and more "wild speculation" at this time. It just doesn't make sense given the delays releasing 10.5 and Apple's previous line re: slowing down major OS X releases. As far as I can tell, Apple's also given no heads-up to developers on this either (although since most of them are bound by a NDA, this is speculation on my part), and there isn't anything in the WWDC promotional materials that would point in this direction.
 
Snow Leopard? After already having Leopard? Sounds the dumbest effen name! Sheesh! :)

Bring on Cougar or something. Hell, Battle Cat sounded awesome maybe even Lion-O!

lol, I can picture my Macbook Pro starting up: "Thunder, thunder, thundercats...HOOOOOOOO!" leading into my password screen. :)
 
Everyone remember Tiger on Intel? Why can't Apple have Leopard on Intel only? That way the Macintel users could have the extra speed benefits without making all of the PPC users feel forgotten. Kind of goes against only one OS though.
 
Repackaging Leopard and selling it to people that already own it? Brilliant.

P.S. April Fools was two months ago, please stop with these joke rumours.
 
Okay, if this is going to be an update like 10.1 was to 10.0, does that mean everyone with Leopard will get this for free or will we have to pay another $129 just like with every other major update?

Or conversely, since I don't have 10.5 Leopard installed (still with 10.4 Tiger), does that mean I need to upgrade to Leopard 10.5 to upgrade to Leopard Snow 10.6 or can I jump to Leopard Snow 10.6 if I decide to upgrade? :confused:
 
It's NOT GOING TO BE Snow Leopard.

Cougar and Lynx are the only two names unused by Apple that they have trademarked. Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, Lynx, and Cougar. Lynx for 10.6, Cougar for 10.7 or vice versa, then on to OS 11.

For the love of god, stop playing guessing games. It's all common sense.

Just because they haven't trademarked Snow Leopard yet, doesn't mean they won't.

It would definitely be a move from the past however - the first double-barrelled name.
Snow Leopard might be the codename for a big 10.5.4? Or maybe a break from the full $129 updates towards cheaper, smaller updates in the future (whilst they start work on OS XI)

Wait so 10.6 is going to offer NO new features, its going to be a faster and bug free version of 10.5?? This sounds like a service pack or an extension of 10.5 why the hell should we pay for 10.6 when they should be fixing the bugs and speed for 10.5...

LAME so far not impressed..

Once again, the ability of people to get annoyed at rumours is astounding!
 
What there was a time when Apple phased out the 680x0 chips, then the PowerPC chips. You had to have known when they switched to Intel they would eventually phase out the Gx chips ....

I thought I'd have more time - based on the release history of Mac OS X and the trend towards longer stretches between releases, I figured the next Mac OS X would come in late 2009-sometime 2010. I don't think anybody projected a OS X stability upgrade - that hasn't been done since 10.1, and that was largely because 10.0 was considerably less functional and usuable than Leopard.
 
A January (Winter) release for Snow Leopard would be pretty cool. Speed. Stability & Multi-Touch.


I'd still like to see Mac OS X Lion though...


Of course, a name is just a name. Its the guts that make it great.
 
Snow Leopard? Lamest name EVER!

How about Mac OS X Leopard 2... anything but Snow Leopard.

How about calling it "The Real Leopard" or "The Leopard You Wanted The First Time" or "Lep-you-ard" (similar to how Steve pronounced Jaguar)
 
It's NOT GOING TO BE Snow Leopard.

Cougar and Lynx are the only two names unused by Apple that they have trademarked. Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, Lynx, and Cougar. Lynx for 10.6, Cougar for 10.7 or vice versa, then on to OS 11.

For the love of god, stop playing guessing games. It's all common sense.

LOL.

This reminds me of those posts early Jan saying. "For ****s sake there is NO WAY THEY WILL CALL IT MACBOOK AIR!!!"
 
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