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Project Alice

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Hey everyone.
I have always wanted to play with this build of OS X for some reason. I know there's a pre-configured qemu image on the garden but I want to use it on actual hardware.

So according to it's included documentation it runs on:
  • All "currently shipping" iMacs
  • All PowerBook G3s minus the Kanga
  • All PowerMac G3s
I have booted the installer on a number of Macs and have been greeted with "Can't be installed on this computer" on all of them.
DP2 came out in 99, and from the little I could find about it should work on most Macs that didn't ship with 10.0 already.
I tried it on my Pismo, and a 400MHz Ruby iMac which shipped 9.0 like the Pismo did. I also tried it on a 466MHz clamshell iBook, even though it wasn't on the list I figured it might work as a pre-OSX Mac.

I was hoping to put it on a firewire drive so I could play with it on more than one machine.
I have two Beige G3s, and a wallstreet PowerBook but I'd rather not screw with those as they already have operating systems on them and we know how qwerky they are in the first place. Not to mention no FW. I also have a B&W that I haven't tried yet. I thought the Pismo would've been a sure thing.
So, which Mac I need to use to get this installed?
 
It runs on a Lombard, as I've run it on one.

The FireWire Clamshell, iMac DV and Pismo are all newer than DP2, so it's not surprising the installer complains. Is there an "Allow installation on unsupported configurations" checkbox? If there is not, the Beige G3 or Wallstreet should work fine, and swapping hard drives to preserve your existing OSes isn't that much of a chore.

I'm not sure you can boot DP2 from a FireWire drive. I mean, does it even support FireWire? :)
 
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It runs on a Lombard, as I've run it on one.

The FireWire Clamshell, iMac DV and Pismo are all newer than DP2, so it's not surprising the installer complains. Is there an "Allow installation on unsupported configurations" checkbox? If there is not, the Beige G3 or Wallstreet should work fine, and swapping hard drives to preserve your existing OSes isn't that much of a chore.

I'm not sure you can boot DP2 from a FireWire drive. I mean, does it even support FireWire? :)
I don’t remember seeing any options like that, so it probably doesn’t.

It really isn’t that hard to pull a drive out you’re right, I’m just lazy lol
I’ll probably end up pulling my G3 desktop out, pretty sure it only has OS 9 on it anyways come to think of it.
 
You could spoof the Pismo’s identifier to PowerBook1,1 to try masquerading it as a Lombard. Maybe DP2 will then install but the question is whether it’ll boot to a GUI with the Pismo’s newer GPU. (Rhapsody won’t — not without some finagling.)
the Pismo is a Uninorth machine but the Lombard is an MPC106 machine, so to try boot DP2 on the Pismo you want PowerBook2,1 instead :)


as for what can run OS X DP2 natively any early Uninorth machine and older should be able to do so natively

so PowerMac2,1 (first Gen Slot loading iMac) PowerMac3,1 (PowerMac G4 Sawtooth) and PowerBook2,1 (iBook G3 first gen Clamshell)

so any of those or any other Mac that pre dates those back to and including the G3 beige, should do the trick :)
 
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Backing up the Lombard -- it runs on mine off a 16GB CF card just fine. I mean... as "just fine" as one can get regarding X DP2, anyway.​
Unfortunately I do not have a Lombard. I will mess around with it more this weekend, probably just pull out my Beige desktop as it’s still fairly stock unlike my Beige tower
 
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So I’ve hooked up my beige desktop, and it happily booted into 9.2.2 as it should. I plop in the DP2 CD, open the installer and no errors this time. I click continue, it reboots and is seemingly hung on a grey screen.
The same thing happens after booting the CD (which starts up to 9.0) and choosing to install from there.
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Perhaps someone who’s dealt with this before knows what could be wrong?

The G3 has a couple minor upgrades. An ATI Rage 128, 384MB RAM, and two hard drives a 40GB and the original 4GB one.
 
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I think that happened to me, but I honestly can't remember -- it's 1 in the morning. It was a bad burn, if it did -- I burned another disc and it worked fine.​
 
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