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The packaging sure is beautiful. Kind of makes me wonder how Apple is going to top all of this with 10.6. After all, how can you best the final frontier?

By going to the "undiscovered country"...you know, where we get along with the Klingons and all.

Sure is a sexy box...I want mine today, but alas, I will continue to want.
 
The one I was sent was build 9A581.

Having trouble with entourage hanging and crashing in exchange mode. Filemaker is fine so far. Speed good after a reboot and leaving it for a while. Some times seems very fast but can get sluggish at times but I have a macbook (first intel) with no graphics card which I don't think helps.
 
Pass the cheese?

This, along with the whole Leopard space thing generally, has to be some of the cheesiest design Apple's put out in a long time.

What's next? Colourful toilet seat laptops?
 
So why is everyone saying it is bad to do an upgrade rather than erase and install? Am I going to lose some of the speed if I upgrade. Also does anyone elses order still say "prepared for shipment" a day before it's supposed to come out :(
 
So why is everyone saying it is bad to do an upgrade rather than erase and install? Am I going to lose some of the speed if I upgrade. Also does anyone elses order still say "prepared for shipment" a day before it's supposed to come out :(

Never ever have I had a problem with upgrades and I've done it 5 or 6 times on 3 machines with several Apple OS'(Jaguar, Panther, Tiger) A clean install is a waste of time unless you have done a lot of hacking or installed a lot of strange add ins. Or if you are having problems with your current OS.
 
Wow, that box is just like... a box!

It's more than just boxy, it embodies the very essence of boxness.

This thread is like the field trip to the Box Factory on the Simpsons. "No, we just make boxes here"
 
It's not.

Upgrade install doesn't work for me either.

This is going to be bad. You heard it here first. 10.5 upgrade does not work properly...
 
need some answers

can any1 tell me if there will be a keynote launch for the leopard? i'm waiting for an improve macbook pro so that i can buy. i dont want wanna buy now and within the nex month a new mbp come out...

can someone help me=p
 
What have you guys done to your machines to cause an upgrade to not work?

it's an issue with the file system. Tiger doesnt see anything wrong... Leopard is too vigarous. It installs on a separate partition, but not upgradable. These are retail copies and this is going to be a huge problem for apple...
 
it's an issue with the file system. Tiger doesnt see anything wrong... Leopard is too vigarous. It installs on a separate partition, but not upgradable. These are retail copies and this is going to be a huge problem for apple...

Err... ok so that statement makes no sense whatsoever.

So you picked the volume for Leopard to install on and it went and installed itself on a different volume? And that volume... was... not upgradeable? Read only?

Are you saying that Leopard won't install itself on damaged file systems? I could understand that, and yes in that case you'd probably have to do a clean install... you'd have to do that regardless. I don't see how that will be a huge problem for Apple though.
 
Err... ok so that statement makes no sense whatsoever.

So you picked the volume for Leopard to install on and it went and installed itself on a different volume? And that volume... was... not upgradeable? Read only?

Are you saying that Leopard won't install itself on damaged file systems? I could understand that, and yes in that case you'd probably have to do a clean install... you'd have to do that regardless. I don't see how that will be a huge problem for Apple though.

Sorry - posted from my iPhone.

I am saying that Leopard is more vigorous in checking the disk for errors. Tiger won't find any errors. Leopard won't upgrade because it found errors (must be more vigorous?).

A clean install should work - I am trying that now.
 
it's an issue with the file system. Tiger doesnt see anything wrong... Leopard is too vigarous. It installs on a separate partition, but not upgradable. These are retail copies and this is going to be a huge problem for apple...

No one else has had this problem and a lot of people have done upgrades to Leopard including national reviewers. You are the first I've heard this from and believe me I've been reading everything on Leopard installs.
 
I am saying that Leopard is more vigorous in checking the disk for errors. Tiger won't find any errors. Leopard won't upgrade because it found errors (must be more vigorous?).

I imagine that would be a good thing though.

I've installed Windows and had it write a system file to a bad sector before. Not pretty.
 
On the way

Received my shipment notice from Apple just now. Fedex tracking says delivery by 10:30 am tomorrow (Friday).
 
Sorry - posted from my iPhone.

I am saying that Leopard is more vigorous in checking the disk for errors. Tiger won't find any errors. Leopard won't upgrade because it found errors (must be more vigorous?).

A clean install should work - I am trying that now.

I don't see this as being a big problem in the world. There will be a few issues such as yourself who have disk problems but this will not be widespread. It happens here and there on every OS release.
 
it's an issue with the file system. Tiger doesnt see anything wrong... Leopard is too vigarous. It installs on a separate partition, but not upgradable. These are retail copies and this is going to be a huge problem for apple...

Leopard installer does a more robust scan of the file system before it attempts an install. It isn't a problem with Leopard but with your existing file system.

It would be best to backup important files and do a clean install... or try a tool like Disk Warrior.
 
I'm getting it tomorrow. I live in New Zealand, and since Leopard is going to be released globally at 6pm Friday, we'll get it before the rest of the world.

Since you get it earlier ..... Maybe you can post how all went and how you like it before we wake up.
 
I heard 10.5 is proving a problem if you have two partitions... :eek:

I could be wrong .... But Tiger and others to my knowledge only install to a single partition. To my knowledge if you keep /user in a different drive / partition, the install will ignore it. Like I said I could be wrong.

I do prefer how multiple partitions are handled in Linux and how it allows me to partition the drive to my heart content.
 
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