Has anyone figured out how to install older OSes on newer machines?
The real issue is that Apple did not give notice that PPC support was a temporary bridge, and did not warn the developers years in advance when the EOL date would be.
...in the absence of any notice from Apple that support would be ending.)
You seem to imply that laziness is the cause, whereas I suspect that there's a big dollop of conservative "don't fix what ain't broke" engineering.
Both statements are incorrect. Apple notified developers and even sold a "transition" tool kit right after WWDC 2005 ( I was there ). So, there was definitely notice. It was definitely described as a temporary bridge. Assuming Rosetta would go on indefinitely when Apple told everyone it was a temporary bridge is clearly a mistake.
I'm just saying the one excuse they don't have is: "I wasn't notified" because every developer was back in 2005.
the problem is Apple did not give a set date on what EOL was going to be. ... Transtion be 1 year or 5 years. Fact that Apple never said anything is a problem and a big problem when you are used to standard that are like 10 years or longer in what you can count on stuff being supported.
In general, it can't be done. New machines have hardware (CPUs, GPUs, chipsets, devices) not supported by older versions of Apple OSX.
Typically, Apple does not back-port new hardware support to older OS versions, so you're SOOL.
Please provide links to Apple's 2005 statements that support this idea.
This was Apple's announcement in June 2005. I'm sure Adobe got the message:
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/jun/06intel.html
For the first time, I'm ticked off about dropping something related to PPC. I understood why Apple dropped support for it in favor of Intel. It was something that needed to be done, and it made sense.
However, dropping Rosetta? No way. That's nonsensical. The only reason I need it is for Microsoft Office, which I carried over through Time Machine when I transferred my stuff over from my iBook.... But Office is a big deal for me, and dropping Rosetta means if I want Office, I need to shell out for it.
Absurd. I refuse to re-buy Office. I just may keep Snow Leopard then. For the first time, even after the PPC fiasco that pissed everyone else off, I'm finally irritated.
Classic is OS9 and is an entire Mac OS before OSX. Rosetta is only an emulation that ran on Intel machines which allowed you to run things like PPC versions of Microsoft Office on an Intel Mac - like I do today.
Perhaps it should just be called Mac iOS 5. Runs all iOS Apps (using Apple's magical Griselda technology) and Mac App Store apps.
Just jail-break it, and you can run your OS X 10.6 programs too.
You know it is coming.
So photoshop CS5 will stop working? Or will bits and pieces suddenly fail to work?
I guess I'll find out soon enough.![]()
No, Photoshop CS3 (or older) will stop working as they are PPC based. They have worked under Rosetta up until now. Upgrades are typically $200.
Thats not right. PS CS3 ist Intel-based.
To all those saying that getting rid of Rosetta is a good thing because it stops the forward march of progress.....can I ask why? What is possible in Lion that was not possible when developing Snow Leopard because it was 'saddled' with Rosetta?
Unless I am very mistaken the answer is, that other than saving a little bit of disk space absolutely nothing. It may cost Apple a few $$$ in quality control and support, but there is not not one new feature in lion that is now possible because they dropped Rosetta. So can we please stop it with the 'holding progress back' argument. Its ridiculous.
Dropping Rosetta is simply not user friendly. Ill use my Dad as an example. He has an an appleworks database of his book collection since 1998. He has been happily using it over all that time...through the OS9->OSX transition and through the PPC to Intel transition without any problems at all. Now he loves buying Apple's latest OS on day 1, he loves to be up-to-date with that kind of stuff even though he has no real technological knowledge. Now without me telling him that his program would no longer run, he would have NO idea what was going on when he would try launching it after his install of Lion only to find out it wouldn't open. I'm sure he would have been distraught that his 8000 entry database was now completely useless without any warning whatsoever.
My question is simple, how many other casual users are in my Dad's shoes? Maybe not with Appleworks but with Office 2004 or Quicken or any older program that they use because it works just fine for them. How many of these people are going to get a rude shock when they get Lion? Its easy for people like you who visit this forum to check what programs are PPC on their computer but most people wouldn't have a clue how to do that. Every-time they open up one of their older programs on Lion for the first time they are going to be crossing their fingers hoping it will open just fine. At least when classic support went the way of the do-do people could tell there older programs wouldn't work because when they double clicked on them there was an indication given that this was using an older technology (the macos 9 boot screen).
I dont consider this behaviour to be user friendly at all and for a company that prides its self on user friendliness that is a problem indeed.
would it be possible for a third party devoliper to come up with a replacement for rosetta on Lion?
Dropping Rosetta is simply not user friendly. Ill use my Dad as an example.
My question is simple, how many other casual users are in my Dad's shoes?
I don't consider this behavior to be user friendly at all and for a company that prides its self on user friendliness that is a problem indeed.
To all those saying that getting rid of Rosetta is a good thing because it stops the forward march of progress.....can I ask why? What is possible in Lion that was not possible when developing Snow Leopard because it was 'saddled' with Rosetta?
WTF is "PowerPC Emulation"? Classic went away with Leopard I thought! UPDATE: That sucks, first Classic and now Rosetta? You're moving the wrong way APPLE!!!Another question though, what the difference between Classic and Rosetta.
Also, who honestly uses Quicktime anymore? VLC is free and open source, is there anything Quicktime can do that VLC can't? Also, when I use the two, Quicktime uses more computational resources.