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Mac OS X Lion - Front Row

Don't feed the troll. I noticed 90% of his retorts so far have been "No, you're the one who (insert last remark that was made about him here.)" Remember in 1st grade when kids used to chant "I am rubber, you are glue, anything you say bounces off me and sticks to you?" Well, some people apparently live by it as if it was some religious code, even into adulthood.

By even having said that, I'm sure I'm going to evoke the reply "No, you're the one who says 'no you're the one.. ' " Maybe if that is the case, doing it enough times will send him into a infinite loop of rages. So best be careful. Maybe if we start yelling out pleasantries to him, we can prevent it and have him shout the same words of encouragement back. Thus adverting future disaster and devastation to this thread.
 
Any Ideas Mac Users

mac-hatter said:
Greetings all!

http://bit.ly/pzyIyl that is a link to my blog entry containing a .pkg that will install Front Row on Lion. As Steve Jobs would put it, its that simple.

Kind Regards,
Ralph perdomo.
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Well it does the fade to black animation and pauses any media playing. But then it just immediately Fades back out, as if it crashed. Running latest version of GM Lion, any ideas mac users.
 
CarsonGallo said:
Well it does the fade to black animation and pauses any media playing. But then it just immediately Fades back out, as if it crashed. Running latest version of GM Lion, any ideas mac users.
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Weird. Open up console log and copy/paste the crash log generated for front row. That should shed some light

(under applications/utilities/console. On the left, under file, there should be an entry under ~/library/logs crash reporter --or thereabouts)
 
Someone mentioned that the iTunes update may stop the Front Row "hack" from working? Is that the case?

I've just uninstalled Plex; its insistence on fetching album/movie data is just horrible, as it means the server (required to run Plex) is a huge hog in the background that just has my hard-drives thrashing away non-stop, unlike Front Row which doesn't do anything until you open it, and just uses quicklook previews which are much better as I can assign series artwork if I really need to myself.

If Front Row will continue to work then it means I can just stick to re-organising my media folders to better work within iTunes (currently they're all a bit all over the place, but I'll be re-organising as part of my update to Lion anyway).

Otherwise, I don't suppose there are any alternatives that are closer in functionality to Front Row? All I need or want is an easy, lightweight media browser, which Plex is not.
 
i remember playing with Front Row when I first got my mac, it didnt take long for it to get dull... xD It's a shame they didnt at least try and fix it, somewhat, i liked the idea of the AppleTV like UI on my computer.
 
haravikk said:
Someone mentioned that the iTunes update may stop the Front Row "hack" from working? Is that the case?
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iTunes 10.5 is pre-release software not available to the general public. It's intended for developers who are testing iOS 5, so unless you are a tester, simply don't download it. Using it will change the structure of "iTunes Library.xml," the file that stores information about your music library. Since Front Row uses this file (rather than scanning for individual MP3s), compatibility is broken and it will report that it found no songs. This will happen even on Front Row running Snow Leopard if iTunes 10.5 is installed, and not a unique problem to this "hack" for Lion. Every other feature of Front Row other than music will work normally.
 
Takuro said:
This will happen even on Front Row running Snow Leopard if iTunes 10.5 is installed, and not a unique problem to this "hack" for Lion. Every other feature of Front Row other than music will work normally.
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Hmm, what do you suppose the chances are of Front Row in Snow Leopard being updated to be compatible in a 10.6.9? If it is then it might be easy enough to port that to Lion instead…
 
haravikk said:
Hmm, what do you suppose the chances are of Front Row in Snow Leopard being updated to be compatible in a 10.6.9? If it is then it might be easy enough to port that to Lion instead…
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There won't be an 10.6.9, as there won't be Front Row in Lion when it's released today.
Those who want Front Row, have to do the trick or have to hope, the Apple sometimes releases a better Front Row in the Mac App Store, or just switch to xbmc or sty. like that

Diamondaine :apple:
 
Diamondaine said:
There won't be an 10.6.9, as there won't be Front Row in Lion when it's released today.
Those who want Front Row, have to do the trick or have to hope, the Apple sometimes releases a better Front Row in the Mac App Store, or just switch to xbmc or sty. like that
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My point was that if Front Row is going to break with the next iTunes update for all current Snow Leopard users, then since Apple does support its most recent OS version then it seems to me that Front Row may be updated to have iTunes 10.5 compatibility, either as part of a Snow Leopard update (if there are other things still to be done) or an update of its own.

This would mean Lion users could then import that updated version, instead of the current one.
 
haravikk said:
My point was that if Front Row is going to break with the next iTunes update for all current Snow Leopard users, then since Apple does support its most recent OS version then it seems to me that Front Row may be updated to have iTunes 10.5 compatibility, either as part of a Snow Leopard update (if there are other things still to be done) or an update of its own.
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As far as I know, Front Row has ALWAYS been incompatible with iTunes BETAS. There doesn't seem to be any valid reason to imagine that it might be incompatible with iTunes 10.5 FINAL when it's released. If such were to be the case, it would be EQUALLY incompatible in Snow Leopard and Lion. A little thinking is useful sometimes.
 
PeterHolbrook said:
As far as I know, Front Row has ALWAYS been incompatible with iTunes BETAS. There doesn't seem to be any valid reason to imagine that it might be incompatible with iTunes 10.5 FINAL when it's released. If such were to be the case, it would be EQUALLY incompatible in Snow Leopard and Lion. A little thinking is useful sometimes.
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I'm well aware that Front Row won't work with betas; I was responding to Takuro's earlier comment that the iTunes library XML file is changing in format, which means that when 10.5 rolls in Front Row won't be able to read the new XML layout at all.

To this I was simply replying that if the iTunes update is going to break Front Row in Snow Leopard, then there may be hope of seeing one last Front Row update on Snow Leopard in order to fix this, in which case copying that version of Front Row should give us a working version in Lion as well, if Apple does fix it of course.

A little reading is useful sometimes, particularly if it avoids you butting into an exchange you don't seem to know enough about and as a result insulting someone without any justification whatsoever =/
 
haravikk said:
I'm well aware that Front Row won't work with betas; I was responding to Takuro's earlier comment that the iTunes library XML file is changing in format, which means that when 10.5 rolls in Front Row won't be able to read the new XML layout at all.

To this I was simply replying that if the iTunes update is going to break Front Row in Snow Leopard, then there may be hope of seeing one last Front Row update on Snow Leopard in order to fix this, in which case copying that version of Front Row should give us a working version in Lion as well, if Apple does fix it of course.

A little reading is useful sometimes, particularly if it avoids you butting into an exchange you don't seem to know enough about and as a result insulting someone without any justification whatsoever =/
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Temper, temper. No insult was hurled at you, although you do seem to deserve one. I stand by my words, which need no correction whatever. As for knowledge, let me guess. Were you one of the first in this forum to say Front Row was compatible with Lion? I guess NOT. Gee, you don't seem to know much about ANYTHING, do you?

PS I've just updated to the latest iTunes (10.4). This does indeed break part of the integration with Front Row, which, presumably, won't be restored until (and if) Apple releases a new version of Front Row (for Snow Leopard and/or Lion), or when someone figures out a way (perhaps an alias would do) to make the old Front Row compatible again.
 
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PeterHolbrook said:
Were you one of the first in this forum to say Front Row was compatible with Lion?
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And what does that have to do with anything? I could care less if you were a cackling maniac resident within the walls at Apple HQ, and whose sole purpose in existing were to ensure that Front Row never made into Lion in the first place.

Either way it has nothing to do with the fact that you waded into a discussion to make insulting accusations of fault in response to a comment I had made that was not wrong. If you believe Takuro's information is unreliable then say-so, if however you think that what he said may indeed be true, then what you posted was irrelevant as beta version or not, a change in the XML scheme will break Front Row once the final iTunes update is released. My point therefore still stands; if an iTunes update is going to break Front Row in Snow Leopard, then it's only reasonable to surmise that continued support of Snow Leopard may lead Apple to release a minor update to Front Row.
 
haravikk said:
And what does that have to do with anything? I could care less if you were a cackling maniac resident within the walls at Apple HQ, and whose sole purpose in existing were to ensure that Front Row never made into Lion in the first place.

Either way it has nothing to do with the fact that you waded into a discussion to make insulting accusations of fault in response to a comment I had made that was not wrong. If you believe Takuro's information is unreliable then say-so, if however you think that what he said may indeed be true, then what you posted was irrelevant as beta version or not, a change in the XML scheme will break Front Row once the final iTunes update is released. My point therefore still stands; if an iTunes update is going to break Front Row in Snow Leopard, then it's only reasonable to surmise that continued support of Snow Leopard may lead Apple to release a minor update to Front Row.
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Unfortunately for you, you read a meaning into my words they didn't contain. Never did I say Apple would or would not issue an update to Front Row. I simply said that whatever incompatibility a final version of iTunes brought to Front Row, it would affect Snow Leopard and Lion equally. Before your latest inflammatory posting, I added a PS to my previous comment about the latest iTunes (10.4), just released.
 
where are the files

I ran Mac-hatter's program to get front row back in the just released Lion, but none of my files from iTunes is there. I am running iTunes 10.4. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My kids depend on the ease of use of front row to find all their movies.
 
junkmail said:
I ran Mac-hatter's program to get front row back in the just released Lion, but none of my files from iTunes is there. I am running iTunes 10.4. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My kids depend on the ease of use of front row to find all their movies.
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Apple announces as much about iTunes 10.4. Plugins no longer work, and I suppose Front Row could be termed partly a type of plugin for iTunes. If you go to your Music/iTunes folder (in ~), you'll see the iTunes Music Library.xml has changed from the format (or, at least, the identification codes of some items) it used to have under previous versions.
 
junkmail said:
I ran Mac-hatter's program to get front row back in the just released Lion, but none of my files from iTunes is there. I am running iTunes 10.4. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My kids depend on the ease of use of front row to find all their movies.
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Despite Peter's grandstanding about how integral Front Row is, and his belittling of anyone who disagrees, I'd suggest looking for an alternative. iTunes 10.4 breaks Front Row, and with Apple's track record, I'd put some money down on saying they won't fix it. I've never used any of the alternatives, but most people seem to like Plex.
 
AnonMac50 said:
I just released my Front Row enabler today because the NDA was just lifted.
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Thank you very much for your contribution. I've just tried it. Sadly, it isn't compatible with the new xml structure of the latest iTunes (10.4). Are there any suggestions you can make to achieve full compatibility with the old (10.3.1 and earlier) and the new (10.4 and later) iTunes?
 
PeterHolbrook said:
Unfortunately for you, you read a meaning into my words they didn't contain.
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Since you seem to be absent minded to the point of having forgotten the post that you wrote, perhaps I should remind you:

PeterHolbrook said:
Haravikk said:
My point was that if Front Row is going to break with the next iTunes update for all current Snow Leopard users, then since Apple does support its most recent OS version then it seems to me that Front Row may be updated to have iTunes 10.5 compatibility, either as part of a Snow Leopard update (if there are other things still to be done) or an update of its own.
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As far as I know, Front Row has ALWAYS been incompatible with iTunes BETAS. There doesn't seem to be any valid reason to imagine that it might be incompatible with iTunes 10.5 FINAL when it's released. If such were to be the case, it would be EQUALLY incompatible in Snow Leopard and Lion. A little thinking is useful sometimes.
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So in response to my comment about Apple possibly releasing a further Front Row update, you made a post about something of which I was already well aware, and then finished by implying that I hadn't thought my post through. In one fell swoop answering a question that hadn't been asked, and insultingly implying that I was missing something blindingly obvious, which in fact I hadn't since I was addressing the possibility of Front Row update only.

So either you didn't read my post properly, or you completely declined to read any of the posts it was responding to. Either way, I wasn't commenting on the fact that the beta doesn't work with Front Row, but the fact that it is believed the final version of iTunes 10.4 will not, due to changes in the XML structure, so your post held no meaning as a response, and nor did it justify your ending it in an insult.
 
haravikk said:
Since you seem to be absent minded to the point of having forgotten the post that you wrote, perhaps I should remind you
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No need at all. What's written is there for everyone to see. And, unfortunately for you, I needn't recant anything I said. Unfortunately for you, also, you read something into my words that wasn't there. I wasn't "rebuking" you. I merely stated something obvious: If iTunes broke Front Row internal links in Lion, it would do the same in Snow Leopard. Need I recant that? I think not.
 
Back in Leopard's time, they released Front Row 2.1.7 that supports iTunes 8.1. I'm guessing that there might be an update for Snow Leopard in the coming days. I don't think they'd leave out Front Row for Snow Leopard, and make it pretty much useless. I'll update my package should Front Row be updated.

AnonMac50
 
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