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Mac OS X on an IBM-Compatable?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Mac OS X on an IBM-Compatable?
Maybe boot rom isn't the right term, maybe it is, but as far as I know, you can't run OS X on a generic powerpc motherboard (and yes, they do exist), or IBM's PPC970 machines, so there is a rom the boot sequence is looking to make sure you are running it on a apple made machine. The old ROM stuff has changed, but apple still makes its hardware proprietary by using some kind of rom. I could be wrong, but that is the impression i've gotten. Otherwise, they couldn't very well stop people from making clones.
Originally posted by iMeowbot
The boot ROM thing was true in the 680x0 days, but not any more.
Note however, that while it works, the OS X license contains the following:
So make sure to slap an appropriate sticker on the front of your PC after you put in the AmigaOne board
Maybe boot rom isn't the right term, maybe it is, but as far as I know, you can't run OS X on a generic powerpc motherboard (and yes, they do exist), or IBM's PPC970 machines, so there is a rom the boot sequence is looking to make sure you are running it on a apple made machine. The old ROM stuff has changed, but apple still makes its hardware proprietary by using some kind of rom. I could be wrong, but that is the impression i've gotten. Otherwise, they couldn't very well stop people from making clones.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mac OS X on an IBM-Compatable?
Yes, you can, it should work on any CHRP machine with a 603 or better; that's why I posted the link to Mac-On-Linux. The "new world" Macs don't need a boot image in hardware, instead they can use a file included with OS 9 and some copies of 8.6.
MOL is a nice tool to have even if you have a real Mac. It allows multiple operating systems and versions to be run at the same time, much like VMWare or VPC on intel.
Yes, you can, it should work on any CHRP machine with a 603 or better; that's why I posted the link to Mac-On-Linux. The "new world" Macs don't need a boot image in hardware, instead they can use a file included with OS 9 and some copies of 8.6.
MOL is a nice tool to have even if you have a real Mac. It allows multiple operating systems and versions to be run at the same time, much like VMWare or VPC on intel.
yes, why not?
Go to apple.com and get the Darwin kernel. It's a free download. It'll run on your x86 machine... no problem, everyone is aware of this, it's not a secret. Pop in your OSX install cd and use the mount command to mount it, amazingly with a bit of tinkering, you will be able to get a few programs to operate, but nothing fancy.
Here's where I lied. You will have a very hard time (it's impossible) getting the OSX gui to run on x86 because it is compiled for different architecture (obviously) and the source code isn't redily available. But you can install X11 and then run a few programs that are made for mac that use X11... but it won't be OSX.
I've tried working on this for quite some time, and have had no luck. I think the closest you can get is doing the above, installing X11 editing gnome source code to use as a gui, and you can dress it up and write a few scripts to make it function in an OSXy kind of way.
Go to apple.com and get the Darwin kernel. It's a free download. It'll run on your x86 machine... no problem, everyone is aware of this, it's not a secret. Pop in your OSX install cd and use the mount command to mount it, amazingly with a bit of tinkering, you will be able to get a few programs to operate, but nothing fancy.
Here's where I lied. You will have a very hard time (it's impossible) getting the OSX gui to run on x86 because it is compiled for different architecture (obviously) and the source code isn't redily available. But you can install X11 and then run a few programs that are made for mac that use X11... but it won't be OSX.
I've tried working on this for quite some time, and have had no luck. I think the closest you can get is doing the above, installing X11 editing gnome source code to use as a gui, and you can dress it up and write a few scripts to make it function in an OSXy kind of way.
this topic comes up so many times in multiple message boards. perhaps it should go into some sort of faq.
to anyone who wants to run mac osx on an x86 computer, all i have to say is: look at where beos is because that's exactly what will happen with mac osx on x86.
to anyone who wants to run mac osx on an x86 computer, all i have to say is: look at where beos is because that's exactly what will happen with mac osx on x86.
Maybe in the future you'll be able to run OS X. But at the moment, you can only run up to 8.6 (in emulation, so it's slow).
HexMonkey said:From what I've read in other threads, Apple did, at some stage, write a version of Mac OS X that would run on the x86 architecture (presumably when they hadn't decided what architecture they'd use in the future, before the G5), but it was never released. I see this as a good thing though, for two reasons.
1. If you could run Mac OS X on a Wintel machine, it would be less stable because Apple would have less/no control over hardware and it is harder to program an OS when you don't know what hardware it's using.
2. People would have no incentive to buy Macs since they have the software anyway. I understand that Apple's profits are mostly from hardware sales, so Apple would likely to bankrupt fairly quickly.
yes it was Rasphody DR2. It ran on x86. (Rasphody was the prepredessor to Mac OS X Server)
silicon said:
Actually, they were right if you look at the dates people were posting. PearPC was released May 5, and the last post before yours was April 28.
You can find more discussion on PearPC in this thead:
PearPC - PowerPC/Mac OS X Emulation on a PC