Mac OS X Panther 7B34 and Server 7B32

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ThinkSecret reports that Mac OS X Panther Client and Panther Server have reached new internal builds.

According to the site, Panther Client is now at 7B34 and Server at 7B32. The new versions are said undergoing localization testing, but have not yet been seeded to developers.

While public claims from Apple promise Panther's release by the end of the year, recent rumors are suggesting September.
 

daveL

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Doesn't look to me as though the releases mentioned will be generally seeded, but I'm getting the sense that we're on a 2 week seeding schedule.

Just my opinion.
 

j33pd0g

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Just as long as it is out before Christmas. The greatest stocking stuffer of the year 2003 goes to: (insert drum roll) Panther.
 

mac15

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I couldn't imagine myself getting an OS for xmas ..... :) there it is sitting under the tree.... eh wow ;)

anyways, I wonder whats new and whats fixed
 

Alexander

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Panther now supports access to disks greater than 1TB via the buffered disk devices (e.g. /dev/disk1). It worked with the unbuffered (e.g. /dev/rdisk1) devices before, but they're a pain to work with. I'm sure regular volumes >1TB worked fine in Jag, too.

The chances of anyone who reads this actually caring about it is about nil, but it just saved my day, and I wanted to tell someone. ;)
 

Powerbook G5

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Support for over 1 TB? Wow...I guess I can finally use my vast 6 gig HD to its full glory now :D Seriously, I cannot wait. I personally like the brushed metal look, so the Finder looks slick and sexy to me along with the rumored speed improvements, can only be good. Not only that, but Expose...oooo...I just cannot wait to try that out. Fast user switching looks cool, but since I am the only one who uses my computer, I won't have any need for that besides the cool factor. I just hope it comes out soon before I burst. It sounded like it was getting better and better until build 28 seemed to cause lots of account admin settings to lock users out...was this a widespread problem or just isolated cases? I just hope it doesn't mean it'll take longer for Panther to reach GM...
 

Duff-Man

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Duff-Man says....I am just guessing here - no inside info - but I don't think we will see a release in September...what I think we will see is the *announcement* of the release date...probably at the Paris Expo, with a shipping date in mid-October......oh yeah!
 

Longey Nowze

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Originally posted by Duff-Man
Duff-Man says....I am just guessing here - no inside info - but I don't think we will see a release in September...what I think we will see is the *announcement* of the release date...probably at the Paris Expo, with a shipping date in mid-October......oh yeah!
Lo_No says... The Duff-Man makes me laugh while waiting for the new PBs and Panther... oh yeah!

LoL
MaT
 

macnews

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The sooner the better. I like the fast user switching - hope it is faster than windows XP. It looked like it was when it was previewed. I also can't wait for expose`. Could this be ported as a patch to 10.2? That would be an extra feature I would pay for on some of my other macs.
 

ultrafiel

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Shoot, I was going to guess that the announcement of the release date of Panther would also be at Macworld Paris or whatever it is called. I would be ecstatic if it was released then, but I doubt it. Just announced would be great though. I need to reinstall my system because I'm having Airport problems, and it just feels like the time to start fresh again. I want to wait for Panther, but I'm not sure how long I can hold out. I really hate going through the process of reinstalling all my apps, so I'd rather just do it once. And yes, I know I could just install over the old system, but starting clean always seems to give me better results (maybe imaginary in any case).
 

mj_1903

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Originally posted by Powerbook G5
Support for over 1 TB? Wow...I guess I can finally use my vast 6 gig HD to its full glory now :D Seriously, I cannot wait.
Man, you need an upgrade. The PowerMac G5's can have more RAM than you can have hard drive space.
 

Powerbook G5

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Back in 1999 a 6 gig HD was the biggest you can get in your PowerBook short of spending $600 on an IBM drive from a third party and installing it yourself. But I know...the G5 can have a good 8 gig of RAM (rumored 16 gigs with the new 2 gig RAM coming out) and 500 gigs of HD...that's just insane. It's my guess that with these newer Bus speed increases, 64 bit memory addressing, better SMP capabilities, I/O and various advances that the G5 is giving Apple, we will be seeing some more advanced things coming to OS X in the near future to fully exploit them.
 

vrapan

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It seems like this year has been a turning point for Apple. Very many exciting things... I switched in a good year !!! G5, Panther, iTMS, 12" and 17" PBs all sorts of stuff if they keep the momentum it will be great for the company and the customers! I am excited!
 

mvc

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Originally posted by Powerbook G5
It's my guess that with these newer Bus speed increases, 64 bit memory addressing, better SMP capabilities, I/O and various advances that the G5 is giving Apple, we will be seeing some more advanced things coming to OS X in the near future to fully exploit them.
Yeah, they say software development is like bacteria in a petrie dish, it keeps growing until it consumes all available resources.

I want to know exactly WHAT Jaguar is doing with all my ram, is it starting new recursive copies of itself every time the cursor blinks or something. Its not just an ordinary memory leak, its a freaking whirlpool.

Just because ram is cheap doesn't mean software shouldn't be elegant rather than rely on brute force. Elegance usually (not always) is associated with efficiency and good design. - I hope Panther is a whole lot less ram hungry or a LOT faster. Or both.

I could forgive the ram gobbling if it was fast as a result. But Jaguar is neither fast or lean, its no feline predator - its a damn fat cat showpussy licking its nuts all day! :mad:
 

vrapan

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256MB RAM. Jaguar eats the whole thing... Panther... You will be happy. IT IS BOTH!!!! faster and less mem hungry. REJOICE
 

The Grimace

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Originally posted by macnews
...I like the fast user switching - hope it is faster than windows XP. It looked like it was when it was previewed. ...
It is much faster. When enabled, fast user switching puts your user name up in the right side of the menu bar, where the app switcher used to be in OS 9, and to switch users you just select who from a drop-down menu. My machine doesn't support Quartz Extreme, so it doesn't do the cube thing, just goes blank then shows the new desktop.

And Expose is perhaps the coolest thing since sliced bread. With OS 8/9, I used a little control panel called ApplWindows, that allowed me to click anywhere around the edge of the screen and pull up a menu with all apps and their windows. I could then easily switch to whichever app/window I wanted. The Dock doesn't even come close to this functionality - too slow with the menus. Expose is fast. I have it set so that when I click on the middle button (scroll wheel), it reveals all windows (that aren't hidden). I also have hot corners set; the 'reveal desktop' (or whatever) is dang handy as well; clears all windows off to the side of the screen, so you can just barely see the side of 'em. Go back to the corner, or click on what little you can see, and voila! they're back. Really very slick.

And the system does seem more responsive, over all. Apps launch faster, windows resize faster (although still some lag), et al. And while some hate it, I like the move to brushed metal. The new Finder kicks; much easier to navigate with the new layout.

Anyways, I look forward to coughing up my $129 when the GM is released. If y'all thought Jaguar was worth the $$$, then you'll love Panther.

Oh yeah, just for the record -
iMac DV 400 w/ 320MB is what I'm using. Gonna try it on my Wallstreet, but I don't think it's supported.

(tig)
 

punter

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Originally posted by The Grimace
It is much faster....
And Expose is perhaps the coolest thing since sliced bread. Oh yeah, just for the record -
iMac DV 400 w/ 320MB is what I'm using.
(tig)
Expose works on non Quartz Extreme computers?!!? Wooooohooooo :D I too have a iMac DV400 but with 512MB. All the reports of faster and less memory, and now Exposé mean I'm definitely making the purchase.

And just think I was going to upgrade my machine (mainly) for exposé :)
 

frogmella

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Jan 6, 2002
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Don't expect too much

Well, I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but Panther ain't that much of an excitement. I'm running 7B28, and it is definitely faster, prettier and more refined (even works well on my iMac/233), but when it comes to new features... hmmmm...

I don't really see how they can justify a $129 price tag this time around.
 

DamnDJ

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Feb 17, 2003
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Re: Don't expect too much

Originally posted by frogmella
Well, I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but Panther ain't that much of an excitement. I'm running 7B28, and it is definitely faster, prettier and more refined (even works well on my iMac/233), but when it comes to new features... hmmmm...

I don't really see how they can justify a $129 price tag this time around.
I feel the complete opposite is true. I think Panther is going to be as much of an important upgrade as Jaguar was to 10.1, if not more so..

New help center, Expose, Speed, fast user switching, the new finder, iChat AV, new security features, etc are making this one heck of an upgrade. One I will have no problem shelling out an upgrade price for.
 

gadg

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Jul 28, 2003
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What exactly is Quartz Extreme? And does the 12" Powerbook have it? And what's the cube thing? :)

Excuse my ignorance!
 
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