Mac Pro 1,1 fan speed maxes out

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  1. badlydrawn, Oct 18, 2011
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2011

    badlydrawn macrumors newbie

    badlydrawn

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    #1
    Dear 1,1 users who upgraded cpu,

    my mac pro has been running smooth as butter for 5 days since an upgrade from 2 x5150 to 2 x5365, temps were a little higher, in the ranges between 55C-70C on full stress. However, since yesterday my fan01 and fan02 kicks in at full speed from boot, and I have no control over them (via smcFanControl). Today it was slightly different, it booted up with normal speeds, but since an hour fan01 and fan02 is back at max speed again.

    I checked my temp readings, they show a sudden fall in read out, going to -128C just when the fans kicked in to max speed. As you can see from the screengrab, ambient, and the drive bay 1-4 were affected by this drop.

    Can anyone suggest a possible problem, and following solution to fix it? I am unsure of what I should look for here.

    Code:
    Fan #0:
        Actual speed : 648
        Minimum speed: 649
        Maximum speed: 2900
        Safe speed   : 1200
        Target speed : 649
        Mode         : auto
    
    Fan #1:
        Actual speed : 2780
        Minimum speed: 641
        Maximum speed: 2900
        Safe speed   : 1200
        Target speed : 2900
        Mode         : auto
    
    Fan #2:
        Actual speed : 1551
        Minimum speed: 639
        Maximum speed: 2900
        Safe speed   : 1200
        Target speed : 1550
        Mode         : auto
    
    Fan #3:
        Actual speed : 598
        Minimum speed: 600
        Maximum speed: 2800
        Safe speed   : 1200
        Target speed : 600
        Mode         : auto
    
     

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  2. Neodym macrumors 65816

    Neodym

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    #2
    You could check whether the temp sensor cables from the CPU coolers are seated properly. Also - did you do a SMC reset after upgrading the CPU's?
     
  3. badlydrawn thread starter macrumors newbie

    badlydrawn

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    Ah thanks no I haven't done an SMC reset. I have tried it now and monitoring the system for the next few days. If the problem persists, I will have to check the temp sensors connections. Is there an online resource where theres a clear layout of the MacPro 1,1 mainboard?
     
  4. 666sheep macrumors 68040

    666sheep

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    #4
    If SMC reset won't cure your problem, you'd have to check Ambient Board cable connector and HDD temp cable connector. They're very close each other (under front fan assembly, very close to upper PCIe power socket) and could be loosen/damaged. Are temp read outs -128 from boot or they're lowering to this amount?
    If you need a service manual, feel free to PM me :)
     
  5. EvilMonk macrumors regular

    EvilMonk

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    #5
    Happened to me when I changed the Dual cores Xeons for Quad cores, its the only things I can think of, Control - Command - P - R at boot and check heatsink connectors are properly connected on the logic board.
     
  6. mrgossett macrumors 6502

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    #6
    Just swapped mine out last weekend on my 1,1 - same upgrade - 5150s to 5365s. Mine has been running perfectly with no fan or temp problems at all, so far. I have not done the SMC reset, but I did do the Firmware Upgrade from 1,1 to 2,1. I don't know if using the old firmware would affect your fan speed and temps, but here's the upgrade tool if you want to try it. You can also downgrade back to the 1,1 firmware if you decide to:
     

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  7. badlydrawn thread starter macrumors newbie

    badlydrawn

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    #7
    Out of curiosity, what temps are you guys operating under during idle and full load?
    My idle temp is 35C-47C core wise with these fan settings:
    Code:
    Total fans in system: 4
    
    Fan #0:
        Actual speed : 915
        Minimum speed: 914
        Maximum speed: 2900
        Safe speed   : 1200
        Target speed : 914
        Mode         : auto
    
    Fan #1:
        Actual speed : 927
        Minimum speed: 929
        Maximum speed: 2900
        Safe speed   : 1200
        Target speed : 929
        Mode         : auto
    
    Fan #2:
        Actual speed : 1013
        Minimum speed: 924
        Maximum speed: 2900
        Safe speed   : 1200
        Target speed : 1014
        Mode         : auto
    
    Fan #3:
        Actual speed : 600
        Minimum speed: 600
        Maximum speed: 2800
        Safe speed   : 1200
        Target speed : 600
        Mode         : auto
    
    and 59C-67C under full load with these fan settings:
    Code:
    Total fans in system: 4
    
    Fan #0:
        Actual speed : 1743
        Minimum speed: 1743
        Maximum speed: 2900
        Safe speed   : 1200
        Target speed : 1743
        Mode         : auto
    
    Fan #1:
        Actual speed : 1658
        Minimum speed: 1658
        Maximum speed: 2900
        Safe speed   : 1200
        Target speed : 1658
        Mode         : auto
    
    Fan #2:
        Actual speed : 1830
        Minimum speed: 1665
        Maximum speed: 2900
        Safe speed   : 1200
        Target speed : 1843
        Mode         : auto
    
    Fan #3:
        Actual speed : 600
        Minimum speed: 600
        Maximum speed: 2800
        Safe speed   : 1200
        Target speed : 600
        Mode         : auto
    
    additionally, smc seems to not be able to control fan03 (psu) at all.
     
  8. nambuccaheadsau macrumors 6502a

    nambuccaheadsau

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    #8
    Have you checked out the sensor connections as suggested yet? That is the most likely cause of fans revving up to full speed all the time. Roars like a jumbo jet. Have you given the fans a good clean out also?
     
  9. dkdavis macrumors newbie

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    #9
    similar thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago. Turned out a stick of RAM had gone bad... go figure
     
  10. badlydrawn thread starter macrumors newbie

    badlydrawn

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    #10
    Haven't had a check on the sensors yet, still waiting for a few tools to come in. However, since the SMC reset and firmware update, I have had it go off only once, and a quick sleep and wake-up calmed it down again. Since last three days no anomalies. Still monitoring though.

    I have had a good full clean this summer, a few months before the upgrade, so dust isn't an issue.
     

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