Mac Pro 1.1 only starts in "safe mode"

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by billbob1, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. billbob1 macrumors newbie

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    I would appreciate help.

    I got an old not working mac pro 1.1 (xeon 2.66) in 2007.

    Config:
    NVIDIA 7300 GT
    2G RAM
    320GB disk

    Here's the symptom:
    start with the logo loading and after a black screen (in early tests the screen was white ...) with the mouse pointer in the top left. normally there should the login window.
    Strange thing is that it starts properly in "safe mode".

    The person who gave it to me told me that originally there was a problem with fan disconnected and so he assumes overheating.
    When I've had this computer, the fan CPU was not working. So I handed the connections correctly. And now fan works.

    I removed the RAM, graphics card, disk, plug everything and I had the surprise to see it working normaly. it reboots 2 times and after that the problem appear again (without touching anything more).

    I reseted the PRAM
    did a hardware check (with the original CD) and all is OK

    When I try to reinstall Mac OS:
    Original Mac OS: start correctly on the CD and then the beautiful screen "kernel panic" of mac. nothing more, not the first window of the install.
    Mac OS Snow Leopard: start correctly on the CD and then nothing, blank screen.

    In safe mode, I did some test with Me is TechTool and surprise, when I test the video memory I released a huge number (like 130 tera B). Is it normal when we are in safe mode ?

    When I start in normal mode, when I'm stuck on the screen black (or white before) with the pointer, the system is still functional (except the graphics)
    So I can connect to remote SSH over the network and get control of the machine.

    so I got these following logs:
    kernel.log
    Oct 6 08:54:02 Mac-Pro-de-BOB kernel[0]: 00000069
    Oct 6 08:54:02 Mac-Pro-de-BOB kernel[0]: NVDA(OpenGL): Channel exception! exception type = 0x3 = Fifo: Unknown Method Error
    Oct 6 08:54:02 Mac-Pro-de-BOB-jules kernel[0]: 00000069
    Oct 6 08:54:02 Mac-Pro-de-BOB kernel[0]: NVDA(OpenGL): Channel exception! exception type = 0x3 = Fifo: Unknown Method Error

    system.log :
    Oct 6 08:51:32 Mac-Pro-de-BOB loginwindow[39]: Login Window Started Security Agent
    Oct 6 08:51:32 Mac-Pro-de-BOB loginwindow[39]: Login Window - Returned from Security Agent
    Oct 6 08:51:32 Mac-Pro-de-BOB loginwindow[39]: USER_PROCESS: 39 console
    Oct 6 08:51:32 Mac-Pro-de-BOB com.apple.launchd.peruser.502[98] (com.apple.ReportCrash): Falling back to default Mach exception handler. Could not find: com.apple.ReportCrash.Self
    Oct 6 08:51:38 Mac-Pro-de-BOB com.apple.launchd.peruser.502[98] (com.apple.Kerberos.renew.plist[122]): Exited with exit code: 1
    Oct 6 08:51:42 Mac-Pro-de-BOB warmd[30]: [fetcher_open_file:936] open("/var/db/dyld/dyld_shared_cache_x86_64") => -1 (errno: 2)
    Oct 6 08:51:42 Mac-Pro-de-BOB warmd[30]: [fetcher_open_file:936] open("/var/db/dyld/dyld_shared_cache_i386") => -1 (errno: 2)
    Oct 6 08:52:03 Mac-Pro-de-BOB mdworker[133]: sandbox cache error: database disk image is malformed
    Oct 6 08:52:19 Mac-Pro-de-BOB sshd[135]: USER_PROCESS: 138 ttys000
    Oct 6 08:52:42 Mac-Pro-de-BOB com.apple.coreservicesd[21]: ThrottleProcessIO: throttling disk i/o


    windowserver.log :
    Oct 06 08:51:25 [76] Server is starting up
    Oct 06 08:51:27 [76] CGXMappedDisplayStart: Display0 : no display alias property
    Oct 06 08:51:27 [76] CGXMappedDisplayStart: Display1 : boot screen
    Oct 06 08:51:27 [76] CGXMappedDisplayStart: Display1 : no display alias property
    Oct 06 08:51:27 [76] GLCompositor: GL renderer id 0x0102240c, GL mask 0x00000003, accelerator 0x0000310b, unit 0, caps 0x00000003, vram 256 MB
    Oct 06 08:51:27 [76] GLCompositor: GL renderer id 0x0102240c, GL mask 0x00000003, texture units 8, texture max 4096, viewport max {4096, 4096} extensions 0x0000000f
    Oct 06 08:51:27 [76] agc_attach: Couldn't find any matches
    Oct 06 08:51:31 [76] CGXPerformInitialDisplayConfiguration
    Oct 06 08:51:31 [76] Display 0x745dd881: MappedDisplay Unit 1; Vendor 0x9d1 Model 0x76c3 S/N 26688; online enabled (0,0)[1024 x 768], Rotation 0, base addr 0x107200000
    Oct 06 08:51:31 [76] Display 0x3f003c: MappedDisplay Unit 0; Vendor 0xffffffff Model 0xffffffff S/N -1; offline enabled (2048,0)[1 x 1], Rotation 0, base addr 0x107200000
    Oct 06 08:51:31 [76] Display 0x745dd881: MappedDisplay Unit 1; ColorProfile "BenQ FP202W" (MD5 ee2f787a8ff3d5d4cd50f769b37a60c1)


    I do not think processors are dead because it starts in safe mode and I can see 4 cores.
    I also think that even in case of overheating of processors, the motherboard is smart enough to stop everything before to burn the logic board or processors. Which is not the case of the graphics card nvidia 7300 GT which has burning without even noticing. There are also brown color near the graphics card on the metal of the memory location due of the graphics card.

    I orient myself quite heavily on a graphics card problem but I wonder if you think about something else or if I forgot to do something.

    Thank you for your help.
     
  2. Loa macrumors 65816

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    Hello,

    It could be a GPU problem, but just to be sure: can you do a fresh OS X install on the machine? Can you verify that it's not software/plug-ins/apps/etc... related? Safeboot will, among other things, prevent some apps from loading. Before dumping your GPU, you could check for this type of problem.

    Loa
     
  3. billbob1 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    thanks Loa for your repply,

    The problem is that I can't install MAC OSX because of a kernel panic after the grey MAC loading screen.
     
  4. ale500 macrumors regular

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    Borrow a video card from some friend/relative/work colleage (or buy one used) and re-test.
     
  5. billbob1 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I don't know anyone with mac pro.
    Everyone I know have macbook or imac ... and in my company we only work on windows.
    I'm looking for a good price for a new card but it's very expensive.
     
  6. billbob1, Oct 6, 2011
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2011

    billbob1 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    It's a Mac pro 1.1 and not 5.1.
    I don't know what the guy did before to give it to me.

    I found something interresting in the install.log :

    Aug 13 03:44:36 localhost LCA[79]: Folder Manager is being asked to create a folder (cach) while running as uid 0
    Aug 13 03:44:37 localhost LCA[79]: Using keyboard layout 1
    Aug 13 03:44:38 localhost LCA[79]: Found primary language hint "fr"
    Aug 13 03:44:46 localhost configd[65]: subnet_route_if_index: can't get interface name
    Aug 13 03:48:09 localhost LCA[79]: Launching the Installer using language code "French"
    Aug 13 03:48:22 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Mac OS X Installer application started
    Aug 13 03:48:22 localhost OSInstaller[192]: 1 display(s) found.
    Aug 13 03:48:22 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Display[1] is NOT using OpenGL acceleration.
    Aug 13 03:48:22 localhost OSInstaller[192]: @(#)PROGRAM:Install PROJECT:Install-572
    Aug 13 03:48:22 localhost OSInstaller[192]: @(#)PROGRAM:Mac OS X Installer PROJECT:OSInstaller-255
    Aug 13 03:48:22 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Hardware: MacPro5,1 @ 2.80 GHz (x 8), 10240 MB RAM
    Aug 13 03:48:22 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Running OS Build: Mac OS X 10.6 (10A432)
    Aug 13 03:48:22 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Env: DYLD_NO_FIX_PREBINDING=1
    Aug 13 03:48:22 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Env: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
    Aug 13 03:48:22 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Env: PWD=/
    Aug 13 03:48:22 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Env: SHLVL=1
    Aug 13 03:48:22 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Env: OS_INSTALL=1
    Aug 13 03:48:22 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Env: _=/System/Installation/CDIS/LCA.app/Contents/MacOS/LCA
    Aug 13 03:48:31 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Using install media product at /System/Installation/Packages
    Aug 13 03:48:31 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Opening OSInstall package '/System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg'.
    Aug 13 03:48:39 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Memory statistics for 'Installer Mac OS X' pane:
    Aug 13 03:48:39 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Physical Memory Allocation: 655 MB wired, 12 MB trapped, 65 MB active, 39 MB inactive, 9469 MB free, 9573 MB usable, 10240 MB total
    Aug 13 03:48:53 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Allowing machine sleep.
    Aug 13 03:49:45 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Preventing machine sleep.
    Aug 13 03:49:46 localhost OSInstaller[192]: ================================================================================
    Aug 13 03:49:46 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Choices selected for installation:
    Aug 13 03:49:46 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Installation: "Mac OS X"
    Aug 13 03:49:46 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Installation: "Logiciels système essentiels"
    Aug 13 03:49:46 localhost OSInstaller[192]: BaseSystem.pkg : com.apple.pkg.BaseSystem : 10.6.0.1.1.1249291854
    Aug 13 03:49:46 localhost OSInstaller[192]: Essentials.pkg : com.apple.pkg.Essentials : 10.6.0.1.1.1249291854
    Aug 13 03:49:46 localhost OSInstaller[192]: BootCamp.pkg : com.apple.pkg.BootCamp : 10.6.0.1.1.1249291854

    after that I can see :
    Aug 13 14:01:11 Mac-Pro-de-BOB Software Update[303]: JS: 10.6
    Aug 13 14:01:20 Mac-Pro-de-BOB Software Update[303]: JS: Firmware is up to date.
    Aug 13 14:01:21: --- last message repeated 4 times ---
    Aug 13 14:01:21 Mac-Pro-de-BOB Software Update[303]: JS: 10.6
    Aug 13 14:01:30 Mac-Pro-de-BOB Software Update[303]: JS: model = MacPro5,1
    Aug 13 14:01:33 Mac-Pro-de-BOB Software Update[303]: JS: 10.6
    Aug 13 14:02:03: --- last message repeated 5 times ---
    Aug 13 14:04:03 Mac-Pro-de-BOB Software Update[376]: JS: 10.6
    Aug 13 14:04:06 Mac-Pro-de-BOB Software Update[376]: JS: Firmware is up to date.
    Aug 13 14:04:07: --- last message repeated 4 times ---
    Aug 13 14:04:07 Mac-Pro-de-BOB Software Update[376]: JS: 10.6
    Aug 13 14:04:17 Mac-Pro-de-BOB Software Update[376]: JS: model = MacPro5,1
    Aug 13 14:04:20 Mac-Pro-de-BOB Software Update[376]: JS: 10.6
    Aug 13 14:04:57: --- last message repeated 5 times ---


    I'm not an expert on mac OS so I realy need your help to understand what he did and what I can do to resolve the probem.

    Thanks,
     
  7. derbothaus macrumors 601

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    Well if it thinks it's 5,1 maybe you need 10.6.4 or higher disc?;)
    Terribly frustrating.
     
  8. billbob1 thread starter macrumors newbie

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  9. derbothaus macrumors 601

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    What?
     
  10. billbob1 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I think that the guy installed snow leopard on an other mac and plug the hard drive in my mac.
     
  11. derbothaus macrumors 601

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    Gotcha. It should still boot up and work just fine as I just did this the other day with a 3,1 and a 5,1. Most likely the GPU as stated earlier. AND...I just read the part about 'brown color'. Yup. Get a 5770.
     
  12. Loa macrumors 65816

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    Hello,

    You said in your first post that it boots up properly in Safe mode. Can't you boot in safe mode and restart the Mac with the Mac OS X dvd in it? Or simpler than that: put the disc in, then restart while holding the "C" key down until you see the grey apple logo.

    Loa
     
  13. billbob1 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I found a temporary solution.

    I moved NV* and GeF* from /System/Library/Extensions

    NVDANV40Hal.kext:
    Contents

    NVDANV50Hal.kext:
    Contents

    NVDAResman.kext:
    Contents

    NVSMU.kext:
    Contents

    GeForce.kext:
    Contents

    GeForce7xxxGLDriver.bundle:
    Contents

    GeForceGA.plugin:
    Contents

    GeForceGLDriver.bundle:
    Contents

    GeForceVADriver.bundle:
    Contents


    And now my mac start normaly.

    I still think about nvidia problem.

    How can I include files I moved ? a simple copie don't work.

    ----------

    I can't install leopard , it freeze or it give me a kernel panic when I boot on the DVD.

    I don't know if the DVD drive is ok, so I'm doing a USB boot device to try a new installation.
     
  14. billbob1 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I can't install leopard because "I think" that when I start with cd USB boot key (or the DVD anyway) , the installation software use the nvidia library (kext) and when this library loaded the system freeze.

    I'm going to buy a new graph card , now I'm 99% sure that this is my problem.

    What do you think about the ATI Radeon HD 5770 ? I read in forums that it works with MAC PRO 1.1
     
  15. derbothaus macrumors 601

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    Yes. That's why I said to get it earlier:)
     
  16. billbob1 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Great , it works.

    I changed the graph card and now the MAC boot normaly.

    I bought ATI radon hd 5770 and no problem for the moment.

    Thanks all for your help.
     
  17. Susa_Art macrumors newbie

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    YOU ARE MY HERO!!!!! THANKS. Five Days I was working around the same problem. Finally I am able to boot normally again and I know what to to change about my MacPro 1,1 immediately ;-)
     

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