Mac Pro 1,1 with Intel 600p M.2 SSD

[MortenMoulder]

Is it possible to install an Intel 600p into my old Mac Pro 1,1 and boot off it? Is it easy? Is there a guide? Point me in the right direction, please.

Thanks!

 

[Earl Urley]

Not possible to have it boot as MacPro 1,1-5,1 ROMs don't recognize nVMe SSDs.

 

[MortenMoulder]

Not possible to have it boot as MacPro 1,1-5,1 ROMs don't recognize nVMe SSDs.

Damn. So I would be better off trading this 250GB one for either 1x 500GB or 2x 250GB and RAID 0? I just don't like the performance of this HDD as a boot drive.

 

[jbarley]

FWIW I use 2 Samsung 250GB SSDs in raid0 as my boot drive in my MP1,1.
Works very well, just make sure to maintain a good backup plan.

 

[MortenMoulder]

FWIW I use 2 Samsung 250GB SSDs in raid0 as my boot drive in my MP1,1.
Works very well, just make sure to maintain a good backup plan.
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Kind of sad to see that performance. It's half of what the theoretical maximum is :-(

 

[jbarley]

Kind of sad to see that performance. It's half of what the theoretical maximum is :-(

Just what do you think the "theoretical maximum" of the SATA2 bus is?
I'm a "glass half full" kinda guy and choose to think getting near SATA3 speeds on an old SATA2 bus is kinda cool.

 

[Yahooligan]

Kind of sad to see that performance. It's half of what the theoretical maximum is :-(

SATA2 (What your Mac has) is limited to 300MB/s, SATA3 is limited to 600MB/s.

 

[MortenMoulder]

Just what do you think the "theoretical maximum" of the SATA2 bus is?
I'm a "glass half full" kinda guy and choose to think getting near SATA3 speeds on an old SATA2 bus is kinda cool.

I know there is a limit on SATA 2 and so on, but since the drive is SATA 3, I would hate throwing "so much money" after it. What happens if I grab a PCIe to SATA 3 adapter and RAID 0 them through that? Would I be able to reach something closer to the theoretical maximum of 2x SATA 3 SSDs in RAID 0?

SATA2 (What your Mac has) is limited to 300MB/s, SATA3 is limited to 600MB/s. If you want faster then you'll have to invest in a PCIe flash card like this - https://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/SSDPHWE2R480/

Yeah I know that. That's why I said theoretical maximum, which might be the wrong term to use (when there is a hardware limitation).

 

[Yahooligan]

I know there is a limit on SATA 2 and so on, but since the drive is SATA 3, I would hate throwing "so much money" after it. What happens if I grab a PCIe to SATA 3 adapter and RAID 0 them through that? Would I be able to reach something closer to the theoretical maximum of 2x SATA 3 SSDs in RAID 0?



Yeah I know that. That's why I said theoretical maximum, which might be the wrong term to use (when there is a hardware limitation).

You are very limited with that 1,1, the PCIe SATA3 cards that are compatible with the 1,1 will only run at PCIe 1.0 1x speed (200MB/s max), a standard 2.5" SSD in one of the drive bays running at SATA2 speeds will be faster. Which makes the product I linked above a huge waste (Forgot we were talking about a 1,1).

 

[MortenMoulder]

You are very limited with that 1,1, the PCIe SATA3 cards that are compatible with the 1,1 will only run at PCIe 1.0 1x speed (200MB/s max), a standard 2.5" SSD in one of the drive bays running at SATA2 speeds will be faster. Which makes the product I linked above a huge waste (Forgot we were talking about a 1,1).

Yeah that's true. Hmm. I just really like this old machine (especially more after I'm upgrading to 2x X5355 and 32GB RAM). I'm not even sure if I'm going to notice a difference between SATA 2 and SATA 3 (not RAID 0), when I just use it as a headless server with Plex and so on it.