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MortenMoulder

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Is it possible to install an Intel 600p into my old Mac Pro 1,1 and boot off it? Is it easy? Is there a guide? Point me in the right direction, please.

Thanks!
 
Not possible to have it boot as MacPro 1,1-5,1 ROMs don't recognize nVMe SSDs.

Damn. So I would be better off trading this 250GB one for either 1x 500GB or 2x 250GB and RAID 0? I just don't like the performance of this HDD as a boot drive.
 
FWIW I use 2 Samsung 250GB SSDs in raid0 as my boot drive in my MP1,1.
Works very well, just make sure to maintain a good backup plan.
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Just what do you think the "theoretical maximum" of the SATA2 bus is?
I'm a "glass half full" kinda guy and choose to think getting near SATA3 speeds on an old SATA2 bus is kinda cool.:p

I know there is a limit on SATA 2 and so on, but since the drive is SATA 3, I would hate throwing "so much money" after it. What happens if I grab a PCIe to SATA 3 adapter and RAID 0 them through that? Would I be able to reach something closer to the theoretical maximum of 2x SATA 3 SSDs in RAID 0?

SATA2 (What your Mac has) is limited to 300MB/s, SATA3 is limited to 600MB/s. If you want faster then you'll have to invest in a PCIe flash card like this - https://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/SSDPHWE2R480/

Yeah I know that. That's why I said theoretical maximum, which might be the wrong term to use (when there is a hardware limitation).
 
I know there is a limit on SATA 2 and so on, but since the drive is SATA 3, I would hate throwing "so much money" after it. What happens if I grab a PCIe to SATA 3 adapter and RAID 0 them through that? Would I be able to reach something closer to the theoretical maximum of 2x SATA 3 SSDs in RAID 0?



Yeah I know that. That's why I said theoretical maximum, which might be the wrong term to use (when there is a hardware limitation).

You are very limited with that 1,1, the PCIe SATA3 cards that are compatible with the 1,1 will only run at PCIe 1.0 1x speed (200MB/s max), a standard 2.5" SSD in one of the drive bays running at SATA2 speeds will be faster. Which makes the product I linked above a huge waste (Forgot we were talking about a 1,1).
 
You are very limited with that 1,1, the PCIe SATA3 cards that are compatible with the 1,1 will only run at PCIe 1.0 1x speed (200MB/s max), a standard 2.5" SSD in one of the drive bays running at SATA2 speeds will be faster. Which makes the product I linked above a huge waste (Forgot we were talking about a 1,1).

Yeah that's true. Hmm. I just really like this old machine (especially more after I'm upgrading to 2x X5355 and 32GB RAM). I'm not even sure if I'm going to notice a difference between SATA 2 and SATA 3 (not RAID 0), when I just use it as a headless server with Plex and so on it.
 
I own a dual 3.0ghz Mac Pro 1’1, and I love it! I’ve maxed it out running on El Capitan. It’s very stable. I have a Sonnet bridge with dual SSD cards in a raid 0 configuration. I’m itching to install NVMe as my boot drive. Hopefully someone will create a kexts to help things along. Because I’m editing a-lot more video now, I feel the need for speed. If no kexts surface within the next year, I’ll just upgrade to a Mac Pro 5’1. So, post anything new, anything good for the 2006 Mac Pro.

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I own a dual 3.0ghz Mac Pro 1’1, and I love it! I’ve maxed it out running on El Capitan. It’s very stable. I have a Sonnet bridge with dual SSD cards in a raid 0 configuration. I’m itching to install NVMe as my boot drive. Hopefully someone will create a kexts to help things along. Because I’m editing a-lot more video now, I feel the need for speed. If no kexts surface within the next year, I’ll just upgrade to a Mac Pro 5’1. So, post anything new, anything good for the 2006 Mac Pro.

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Better to change your plans, bootable support is impossible with anything earlier than MP3,1 and El Capitan don't support NVMe blades besides the Apple OEM models existing at the time.
 
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Yeah that's true. Hmm. I just really like this old machine (especially more after I'm upgrading to 2x X5355 and 32GB RAM). I'm not even sure if I'm going to notice a difference between SATA 2 and SATA 3 (not RAID 0), when I just use it as a headless server with Plex and so on it.
Overkill for Plex. Single boot SSD and 32GB is fine. How much media is in your Plex library, and what is your media storage situation?
 
don't no why people buy old refurbished SSDs as an higher price then new last models?



 
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Bottleneck is the slow PCI Bus, 700 MB/sec is max on 1.1

Get a used AHCI blade if it has to be a blade.

Raiding 3 sata ssds is worth the same with less trouble.
 
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Summary: I could get a new Mac to go fast... but then it'd end up being used by only one of us, which would render it collectively useless! The BIG form factor really works for us, from a practical standpoint, since no single person can take possession of the machine! Q: How should I best pimp it out?


I've been using my Mac Pro 1,1 for the last few years- picked it up for $20, got it a decent video card for $70 and have been using it for all the hard work ever since. Typically we use 2012 Mac Minis for everyday use since the new machines have been less than stellar in terms of quality.

I had originally purchased the Mac Pro to build a park bench coz I had a G5 tower also I got for $10.

However, the machine turned out to work and has worked out and well... we (my family and I) just really dig it.

I have a recent OS running on it and was wondering in 2021 what you'd use to set up a RAID array on it?
I have a feeling this machine will be active in our house until ~2025 timeframe, unless it quits.
 
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