Mac Pro 2013 VS Mac Pro 2008 speed tests

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  1. thomasfalke macrumors member

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    Hi guys,

    here are some tests with the new Mac Pro vs old Mac Pro:


     
  2. Anim, Feb 22, 2014
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    Thanks for the vid, just goes to show how much a difference the CPU makes on this machine. One point though, why was the 2008 8 core not using 16 buckets in the C4D test or does it not support hyper threading? assuming it is 2 x 4 cores in that machine too.

    Edit: Also great to see real world tests rather than benchmarks.
     
  3. thomasfalke thread starter macrumors member

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    It doesn't support hyper threading :-(
     
  4. Macman45 macrumors demi-god

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    OP: What was the file size used in the Handbrake test?
     
  5. Anim macrumors 6502a

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    How much of a difference would the ram have made. Would these tests have fitted within 8GB ram?
     
  6. thomasfalke thread starter macrumors member

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    196.3mb

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    I don't think these tests benefit from RAM. The biggest advantage for me in more RAM is that the 2013 Mac pro doesn't slow down when you have multiple programs open.

    Even with Windows 8 running on VM ware i don't feel a speed difference.
     
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    I'd like to see that Handbrake test using a 1GB file or thereabouts....Just curious.
     
  8. 0x2102 macrumors member

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    Handbrake is using approx. 1GB (+/- 5%) memory on my MP no matter how big the source file is. Tested this with a 32GB MKV source file.
     
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    Damn! I was almost over my 2013 nMP envy. Now this! Curse you, thomasfalke! :)

    It's very interesting to see the side by side speed differences between the model I currently own and the new Mac Pro. It makes the justification to buy even easier, though I'm still holding out for a year or two... I think.
     
  10. 0x2102 macrumors member

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    I am coming from a 12c 2.8Ghz classic MP 5.1 / 48GB RAM / SSD / Radeon 7970 to a nMP 6c/32GB/1TB/D700 and I really like the nMP. 100% multicore performance is about 25% less with the 6c but everything else feels snappier and faster.

    Here comes the best part: it's silent even under 100% CPU load.
     
  11. OS6-OSX macrumors 6502a

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    Here is a test of speed vs the nMP 6c. I forgot the actual numbers but the 6c is not the victor in this respect.
     

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    That's impressive.....I want one...:D
     
  13. G4DP macrumors 65816

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    SHOCK HORROR!

    Computer made with components from 7 years old is slower than one made from parts less than 6 months old.

    Who'd have thunk it.
     
  14. slask macrumors newbie

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    Notwithstanding specially optimized FCP routines for the nMP, the bang for the buck ratio is far too small for the new insanely expensive box.

    Thank you very much, but my 2008 Pro will serve an additional 5 years, then we will see what has evolved.
     
  15. spaz8 macrumors 6502

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    I hope you are lucky.

    My Mp 1,1 is getting replaced with a nMP 6c like above. My MP1,1 (2007) is slowly dying. Parts wear out. Headphone jack is spotty, one of the FW800 seems to be going. One of my two DVD drives is on the fritz. Its been a great computer, I'm typing from it now. But I'm looking forward to retiring it, and frankly it owes me nothing after nearly 7 years of of pretty much 24/7 work. I've just been hoping it makes it till the nMP arrives. So getting 5 more years from your 2008, may be harder than just updating the GPU.
     
  16. kevink2 macrumors 6502a

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    Since I don't do anything with my Mac Pro that would really benefit from the new Mac Pro, I'm staying with my 2008.

    The much upgraded CPUs would be faster per core. The RAM is significantly faster. But I don't do anything that would benefit from the much better GPUs in the new Mac Pro. Which, based on my reading of reviews, is the main advantage of the new MP.

    Of course, size is nice.

    I'm probably done with upgrading, though. 20GB of RAM. 960GB and 240GB SSD. USB3 ports, and eSata.
     
  17. 666sheep macrumors 68040

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    Now I'm waiting only for nMP vs Power Mac G3 B&W speed test :rolleyes:
     
  18. thomasfalke thread starter macrumors member

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    Coming up! Right after the Mac Pro 2013 vs Commodore 64 test...:D
     
  19. Michael73 macrumors 65816

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    Thanks Thomas for posting this. As you can see from my sig, I have a 3,1 like yourself and my nMP which was ordered on December 20th just changed to "preparing to ship" today. The nMP I have on order is an 8-core / 32GB / 1TB / D500.

    Of all the benchmarks posted recently the one I see almost nothing about (which you alluded to) is improvements in virtual machine speed. Are there any tests you can run which would quantify that? BTW, I'm running Win7 x64 in VMWare Fusion 6.
     
  20. thomasfalke thread starter macrumors member

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    Hi Michael, you can rest at ease, I am running Windows 8.1 on VMware and the Mac Pro pretends that he isn't even running an extra OS. He doesn't even care :D It's amazing. Startup speed in VMware is just a few seconds. Very stable. If I have time I will post a vid.
     
  21. spaz8 macrumors 6502

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    Each generation of intel processor has gotten better at emulation. Haswell (not the E5v2 xeon) is better still.
     
  22. Michael73 macrumors 65816

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    Thanks for the reply. Posting a vid would be most awesome...but only do so if you have the time. A few hours ago, my "preparing for shipment" note changed to "item has shipped" and my credit card was charged. Estimated arrive is on Thursday of this week. I'll find out myself very soon :D

    The other thing I'll be very interested to see is the quickness of a TB connected Drobo 5D loaded up with a bunch of 3TB SATA drives that I'm aiming to use for both additional storage and to partition and use as a TM drive. My Macintosh HD (boot drive) has 964GB of stuff and since I "only" have the 1TB drive in the nMP, I'd like to free up some of that space and offload it to the Drobo. Probably the first item of business will be moving most of the data out of my Movies directory since I have 180GB of iMovie events and 160GB in my iMovie Library.
     
  23. thomasfalke thread starter macrumors member

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    My Lacie 5big 10TB gets around 800MB/s (its only TB1), which is a perfect match for the internal HD of the Mac Pro.
     
  24. tuxon86 Suspended

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    The c64 boot faster :)
     
  25. thomasfalke thread starter macrumors member

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    True that! :D
     

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