Mac Pro $400-$450

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  1. Applepie047704 macrumors newbie

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    Anyone know where I could get a powerful mac pro to play games and light editing for $400-$450

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  2. Macsonic macrumors 65816

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    Hi Applepie047704. You can try eBay or Craigslist. Though I think the lowest priced Mac Pros ranges from $550 to $700 on the first and second generation model and only 32bit. Your better choice would be the 2008 or 2009 models but priced higher, around $900 up.
     
  3. simsaladimbamba

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    Or you could build a Hackintosh perhaps, using a G5 case.
     
  4. Applepie047704 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for the fast reply but do you have any other suggestions for a mac to play games on for $400?
    Thanks
     
  5. simsaladimbamba

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    A used Mac mini perhaps?

    It really depends on the kind of games you want to play and why it does need to be a Mac? My flatmate got a 300 € AMD box and threw in an ATI 7770 or something an can play games like Tomb Raider and such with quite good settings. All in all he spent more money on games now than on the rig.
     
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    Games? Yeah a PC... Not one of OS X's strengths!
     
  7. Applepie047704 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Games like minecraft on medium settings
    Does that change anything?

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    what $400 pc prebuild system would you recommend for playing minecraft and some medium settings bf3
     
  8. Tesselator macrumors 601

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    I dunno if that changes anything or not. The point is that the mac isn't a gaming platform. There's about 100 times more tittles available for PC. GFX performance on the Mac is also stilted to about 75% of what the same hardware is capable of under Windows. All hardware upgrades such as RAM, supported video cards, and so on is more expensive on the Mac. MacPro specifically is a Workstation class computer and not well balanced for game playing.

    If you want to know what kind of system you can get for $400 list them up on e-pay with that price criteria. I'm betting a $400 used PC will run circles around a $800 used MacPro when it comes to gaming and probably most Adobe applications too.

    I kinda hate saying these things cuz I like Apple and I dig OS X, but for games... well, yeah.. Not Mac! :p
     
  9. GermanyChris macrumors 601

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    build a nice APU based PC..put Linux on it download the minecraft .jar and your playing for $400. Want more games then download steam. $400 isn't much of a budget.
     
  10. Colpeas macrumors 6502

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    Well I got my first gen. Mac Pro for approximately $480 off ebay, spent another $200 on upgrades (2x quad core 2,66ghz Xeons, Ati HD4870 1GB, airport and additional RAM), and performance-wise, it is on par with my firend's $1500 gaming rig with Core i5-2500K and Geforce GTX560. As a matter of fact, my upgraded Pro even scores higher numbers in geekbench! The only disadvantage compared to his PC is that my HD4870 doesn't support directx 11, but DX9 games such as GTA IV run equally well on both machines.

    However, if you want a gaming computer, stay away from Macs (unless the game you love to play is OS X only, which neither of the games you mentioned is). For 500 bucks you can get a very decent used PC with MUCH lower power consumption and far greater upgradeability. Since you would need to run boot camp to run the games, the whole point of having a Mac lacks sense.

    Why to buy rather expensive Apple HW, if you'd only need to run Windows...?
     
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    then your friend has a bad 2500k. Your quad 2.66 has a GB of around 5.5k ootb a 2500k GB is is about 8k. When OC'ed 2500k's get about 12k on GB which is higher than you'd get with 5365's. You loose in architecture and have nor core count advantage. Even if you did you'd still loose at gaming because few fames use more than 2 core and virtually none use more than 4. I'm glad you like your MP I adore mine too but lets deal in reality.
     
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    Come to think about it what games out there really make use of more than 2 cores?
     
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    Nearly all released in the last 10 years. Even old games like Halo 1 (2003) in WindowsXP and American McGee's Alice (2000) in OSX use all 4 of mine
     
  15. Bohab macrumors newbie

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    I'm afraid you don't really understand the discussion. Cores and CPUs are the exactly same thing. The only difference is where they are placed (two slices of silicon or one). In fact, Intel's early "dual core" CPUs were just two separate CPUs attached to one socket.

    [​IMG]

    The first Dual CPU from Apple came out in 2000 (G4 Gigabit Ethernet), but the first supporting Apple in 1995 (Daystar MP).....

    Humm, yet OSX was doing it in 2001 and Windows XP in 2004......

    Software doesn't mean much, the OS is primarily responsible for divvying up load across available CPUs/cores. The software's only job in this situation is to make available tasks that can be split up and executed in parallel. Software doesn't have to be written to support multiple CPUs, but it can be optimized for it.



    Graph your CPU usage for a few hours. Even at a dead idle on a high core machine (6/8/12), a single core's activity never drops to 0% for more than a few tenths of a second before OSX gives it something to do. This is why "turbo boost" is such a scam, there is never an idle core in OSX!

    Note that "virtual" cores (threads/hyperthread) are not the same and will not always be used.
     
  16. Applepie047704 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I've checked all over eBay,it only has pretty crappy AMD ones. Anyone have a site where I could buy one? (like a computer site)
     
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    That depends on your residence. Not many online electronics retailers ship "cheap" products world wide, unless you count eBay power sellers.

    Newegg is a start, but Intel based computers will always cost more than AMD based ones.

    Anyway, my flatmate, the one I talked about earlier in one of your threads, has such a "crappy" AMD box, and it runs Minecraft quite well, even at that "64 bit" resolution.
     
  18. Applepie047704 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    So will a quad core amd phenom 3.4 ghz 4gs of ram and no graphics card run minecraft??
     
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    +1

    The whole minecraft thing.... guys Minecraft has a version that is native to OSX, you dont need windows to play minecraft. Id know as I play it some :D
     
  21. Colpeas macrumors 6502

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    No, it's octo-2,66GHz now, which scores ~ 10000 points. Upgraded from 2x Xeon 5130 to 2x Xeon X5355. I guess with X5365 I could get maybe 11500, but these CPUs are pretty darn expensive.
     
  22. GermanyChris macrumors 601

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    http://browser.primatelabs.com/user/20986

    Like the 5th one down on my list?

    and an overclocked 2500K beats it still.
     
  23. Applepie047704 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Will this run minecraft??

    http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemNumber=N82E16883256196
     
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  25. Applepie047704 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Sorry I can't build computers shouldn't it run well due to the graphics card?
     

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