MP 7,1 Mac Pro 7,1 Configuration Pricing and Accessories

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  1. MisterAndrew, Jun 5, 2019
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    This thread is for Mac Pro 7,1 configuration pricing and accessories. This is a WikiPost so anyone with the proper credentials may edit it.

    Please update (or correct) the info as it becomes available (or changes) and feel free to post rumors in this thread about upcoming options and accessories from Apple and 3rd parties that are made exclusively for the Mac Pro. Note: Pricing is for USA in USD. You may add pricing for other markets in other currencies.

    Base configuration: $5999
    8‑core Intel Xeon W-3223 processor (Intel price: $749)
    32GB 2666 MHz DDR4 ECC memory (Four 8GB DIMMs)
    256GB SSD
    AMD Radeon Pro 580X GPU

    Processor options:
    12-Core Intel Xeon W-3235 processor
    Supports up to 1 TB 2933MHz memory
    Price:
    Intel price: $1398

    16-Core Intel Xeon W-3245 processor
    Supports up to 1 TB 2933MHz memory
    Price:
    Intel price: $1999

    24-Core Intel Xeon W-3265M processor
    Supports up to 2 TB 2933MHz memory
    Price:
    Intel price: $6353

    28-Core Intel Xeon W-3275M processor
    Supports up to 2 TB 2933MHz memory
    Price:
    Intel price: $7453

    Memory options:
    48GB (Six 8GB DIMMs)
    Price:

    96GB (Six 16GB DIMMs)
    Price:

    192GB (Six 32GB DIMMs)
    Price:

    384GB (Six 64GB DIMMs)
    Price:

    768GB (Six 128GB DIMMs or 12 64GB DIMMs)
    Price:

    1.5TB (12 128GB DIMMs) (Requires 24-core or 28-core processor)
    Price:

    Standalone memory:
    Apple 8GB DDR4 Memory Kit
    Price:

    Apple 16GB DDR4 Memory Kit
    Price:

    Apple 32GB DDR4 Memory Kit
    Price:

    Apple 64GB DDR4 Memory Kit
    Price:

    Graphics options:
    AMD Radeon Pro Vega II
    CTO price:
    Standalone kit price:

    AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo
    CTO price:
    Standalone kit price:

    Storage options:
    1TB SSD (Two 512GB modules)
    Price:
    iMac Pro price: $300

    2TB SSD (Two 1TB modules)
    Price:
    iMac Pro price: $600

    4TB SSD (Two 2TB modules)
    Price:
    iMac Pro price: $2400

    Displays:
    Pro Display XDR with standard glass (glossy)
    Price: $4999

    Pro Display XDR with nano-texture glass (matte)
    Price: $5999

    Pro Stand
    Price: $999

    VESA Mount Adapter
    Price: $199

    AppleCare+ for Pro Display XDR
    Price:

    Accessories:
    Afterburner ProRes and ProRes RAW accelerator card
    CTO price:
    Standalone kit price:

    Promise Pegasus R4i 32TB RAID MPX Module Kit
    Price:

    Promise Pegasus J2i
    Price:

    Apple Mac Pro Wheel Kit
    Price:

    Apple Thunderbolt 3 Pro Cable (1.8 m)
    Price:

    Apple Thunderbolt 3 Pro Cable (2 m)
    Price:

    Apple Thunderbolt 3 Pro Cable (3 m)
    Price:

    Apple USB-C to Lightning Pro Cable (1 m)
    Price:

    Belkin Lock Adapter for Mac Pro
    Price:

    Belkin AUX Power Cable Kit for Mac Pro
    Price:

    Logitech Pro Magnetic Webcam
    Price:

    AppleCare+ for Mac Pro
    Price:
     
  2. MisterAndrew thread starter macrumors 65816

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    To get an idea of pricing for some of the upgrade options we can probably look at the iMac Pro. I compared the price differences between the iMac Pro chips and similar chips on Intel's site. Apple is charging roughly 2x the price difference. For example, Intel's price difference between the 8-core W-2145 and the 10-core W-2155 is $327 ($1440 - $1113). Apple's upgrade price from the 8-core W-2140B to the 10-core W-2150B is $800. For the 14-core the difference is $834 Intel vs. $1600 Apple, and for the 18-core the difference is $1440 Intel vs. $2400 Apple. Of course those are custom chips so we don't know their cost and it appears the Mac Pro is using off-the-shelf CPUs so it will be interesting see how much the price mark-up is. I think we can expect the Mac Pro CPU upgrades from Apple to be somewhere in-between 1x and 2x Intel's price difference. For example, I think we can expect the 12-core option to be between $649 and $1298, and $1250 to $2500 for the 16-core.
     
  3. ZombiePhysicist, Jun 6, 2019
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    I think the Intel List prices from when the processors were introduced are bogus. For example, the 28 core chip goes for between 3000-3500 online almost anywhere today, and 6 months from now when they launch in Fall (i.e., last day of fall is December 21), it will be cheaper still.

    https://www.rakuten.com/shop/thekey...le_thekeykey&gclid=CNGd9Iup1eICFVI9DAod0oMFQA

    For example, Apple charges $2400 for the 18 core upgrade on the iMac pro and you can easily find it for $2600 online.

    https://www.servers4less.com/cpu/retail-box/intel-bx80660e52697v4?gclid=CL7qzMSq1eICFQpSDQodCMEGTA


    I think it's fair to use the SSD prices from the iMac Pro.
     
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    The 28-core chip is the new W-3275M, not the W-3175X (which Intel lists as $2999).
     
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    Agreed, but they are very close to the same thing, so I doubt the price should be too different. It's the best proxy we have for a real price and not the lunatic non-real world list prices.
     
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    No, the prices you listed are in-line with Intel's price. They are not very close to being the same chip. The new one is faster and uses less power, and supports 4x the memory.

    https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=189452,193754
     
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  8. deconstruct60 macrumors 604

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    In a tech podcast interview with the Mac Pro Product Manager for the iMac Pro and Mac Pro (https://www.relay.fm/mpu/485 ) he mentions that the keynote didn't highlight that "a lot of of these kits will be sold separately " ( about 15:20 - 16:50 ) [ afterburner and MPX GPU mentioned as two explicit examples but that empty slot waiting to be filled may open a door. Plus folks who need replacement spare part NAND cards. ] . Since Apple is leaving an empty Storage daughter card slot in base configuration. They may sell something to fill it. [ Might have to restore a 'disk' contents from scratch, but a possibility they will sell the 256GB module to folks. ]

    So the 'standalone kit' may categories may expand. [ I'm not so sure Apple is going to sell DIMMs as that is more commodity and their pricing is just so bad ]
     
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    All the standalone kits I listed are from Apple's Mac Pro Technical Specs page. Apple lists memory DIMM kits. Let's leave the prices blank until they are actually confirmed, but it's okay to list other prices for the exact same item from another source like the iMac Pro as long as that's specified.
     
  10. deconstruct60 macrumors 604

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    Apple just going to for the extra juicy profit margin...

    "Normal" 3275 with an 'anemic' 1TB top end. ;-) $4449

    https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...on-w-3275-processor-38-5m-cache-2-50-ghz.html

    but no. to get incrementally 500GB more it is a another $3k ( $7453 )

    https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...n-w-3275m-processor-38-5m-cache-2-50-ghz.html

    Although technically the spec sheet says 2TB. ( Apple perhaps fearful that their pricing on that would get enough customers to cry 'uncle' and not buy ; so not worth it to offer. )
    --- Post Merged, Jun 6, 2019 ---
    The wording in the blog suggested that not all the options may be listed in the current material. I'm just saying that some of these may be "standalone kit" status and it will get more clear later.

    I didn't notice that before. Pricing likely to be pretty bad.


    And if individual part available status changes.
     
  11. MisterAndrew thread starter macrumors 65816

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    It seems like Macs have historically supported more memory than Apple specifies, so perhaps you could get the full 2 TB if you used some 256 GB DIMMs.
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    Yes, we can expect more options especially as time goes by.
     
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    Why not an NVMe PCI card?
    http://highpoint-tech.com/USA_new/series-ssd7120-overview.htm

    And a nice 15TB NVMe SSD that is faster than the apple SSD and costs less than the 4TB upgrade:
    https://www.nothingbutsavings.com/P...MI9t7d9tme4gIVQ0sNCh2b6AcWEAkYASABEgLlPfD_BwE
     
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    Yeah, there are a large number of PCIe add-ons that will work in the Mac Pro, but I created this list as an aide to help decide which configuration and options to order from Apple.
     
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    Any idea if you could put these in a non MacPro (as in would the PCIe slots line up?)
     
  16. deconstruct60 macrumors 604

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    Afterburner --- without macOS, it isn't useful. Over Thunderbolt v3 its utility is probably highly limited in the 8K space ( non Mac Pro Macs via a external PCI-e enclosure. ). If it is highly expensive then that loss of utility will be a major blocker. Whether folks want to buy it for 4K (or less) work is too soon to tell.

    MPX full height pragmatically won't fit anywhere else. (soaking up 4 slots there are few systems where users would want to make that trade-off. For external TB PCI-e enclosure it is highly doubtful that would be cost effective even if someone build an enclosure to stuff it into. ). The 4 HDD module may get away with just using the 75W from the standard socket ( if pick only modern drives and limited spin up Wattage loads it may tip toe under that limit. ).
    the MPX GPU modules with thunderbolt sockets and provisioning to do, those are a mismatch anywhere else.

    MPX half height. Maybe. Not sure who'd want the entry card though.

    If the notion is that the prices are going to get driven substantially down due to high sales to non Mac Pro users , then I wouldn't hold my breath.
     
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    I wonder whether the wheels are going to have a silly enough price to cause another round of negative press coverage.
     
  18. danwells macrumors 6502

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    I hope Apple will offer both versions of the top processors - shame to pay $3000 plus Apple Tax extra for a CPU for a Mac that will never have more than a modest 768 GB of RAM
     
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    This website is listing the CPUs for sale. For example, the 12-core is $1399.

    https://www.shopblt.com/item/intel-xeon-w-3235-proc-19.25m/intel_cd8069504152802.html
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    They won’t. But you could order the 28-core W-3275 from a 3rd party, like the one I linked above for $4,400. It’s also possible the $2,999 W-3175X might work in the Mac Pro, but I’m not sure because it’s Skylake. It also only supports 512GB RAM.
     
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