Mac Pro Announced

[aswitcher]

Greedy sod you already have a MacBook Pro.

Yeah, sold my 17"PB and with that money and salary packaging got my MBP for about $300. Definetly worth the upgrade

But my other money comes from an insurance claim since we were recently robbed So my second Mac will be a mixed blessing.

 

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The $90 Saved Downgrading To The 160 Will Buy A 300GB SATA/300 Allmost All The Time

It is pennywise - pound foolish to buy a disk smaller than the biggest possible.

The most expensive thing on a typical computer is the disk slot - you only get a few (or one) of them. Fill the slots with small disks, and you'll soon run out of space.

You'll soon regret wasting the 90 GB or so that you saved 60 dollars on.

The "cost per GB" of a disk is nothing compared to the "cost per disk slot".

Except for the fact that you can buy a 300GB SATA/300 HD for $80 almost any weekend at Fry's. Money saved downgrading to the 160 is like getting it for free. You can set it aside unused for when you sell it.

But when you run out of HD slots, you can always just dump the small HD you had originally. I'd totally recommend getting the smallest available boot drive and adding a big third party drive with the money you save, unless you plan on filling all four slots reasonably quickly.

 

[glassbathroom]

Has anyone had a Mac Pro with Airport installed shipped yet? I am hoping that they are not far away. The 2 weeks of my 2-4 weeks is up on Tuesday.

 

[Roy]

Mac Pro Rev. B

Should Mac Pro Rev. B be expected to come out in January 2007? Or since the switch to Intel, is there any expectation that Rev. B. will actually be sooner?

 

[Trekkie]

Should Mac Pro Rev. B be expected to come out in January 2007? Or since the switch to Intel, is there any expectation that Rev. B. will actually be sooner?

I'd expect a Rev A.5 in November when Clovertown comes out. Mainly a speed/core bump. I doubt they'd release a new system right now and then refresh it with new stuff beyond the proc in two months.

I'd guess Rev B would be WWDC or so next year.

 

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Mac Pro Rev. B For Clovertown Before MacWorld Unlikely, I Think

I'd expect a Rev A.5 in November when Clovertown comes out. Mainly a speed/core bump. I doubt they'd release a new system right now and then refresh it with new stuff beyond the proc in two months.

I'd guess Rev B would be WWDC or so next year.

From what I've gathered here, Clovertown may need a different motherboard (it runs a different speed FSB and RAM) and a different cooling system (it's hotter). I'm not for sure. Perhaps this motherboard can adapt to those differences in the processor and ram. And perhaps the cooling system is overbuilt in anticipation of Clovertown's needs for a little more cooling. Since Clovertown is probably not going to arrive in quantity until almost the end of the year, I think, we may not see the OctoCore before MacWorld Expo January 9.

I hope I'm wrong though. Sooner before Christmas would be awesome!

 

[Trekkie]

I hope I'm wrong though. Sooner before Christmas would be awesome!

I don't have my work computer with me to check what I'm allowed to say yet per my NDA, but I think I can say be prepared for a Happy thanksgiving, at least from Intel's perspective. Apple needs to release it though so not sure what their schedule is.

 

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November Clovertown Deliveries May Be Enough To Get It On The BTO Page STL

I don't have my work computer with me to check what I'm allowed to say yet per my NDA, but I think I can say be prepared for a Happy thanksgiving, at least from Intel's perspective. Apple needs to release it though so not sure what their schedule is.

November Clovertown Deliveries May Be Enough To Get It On The BTO Page Sooner Than Later. I take it you know they will ship in November. Question is in what quantity? But I suppose it wouldn't take many delivered to Apple for them to start offering it. I read a report recently that says the Woodcrest motherboards are all built to Clovertown Thermal spec. So it may indeed simply be a processor option Apple can tack onto the current BTO page. Wonder about the differetn RAM speed Clovertown uses though. Perhaps it will get it's own BTO Page. Since demand may not be fierce for Clovertown to begin with due to much higher cost, a small supply in Apple's manufacturing plants may be enough for them to add it early on. Here's hoping anyway. Thanks for the leak. I'm sure your credibility is impeccable.

 

[THX1139]

November Clovertown Deliveries May Be Enough To Get It On The BTO Page Sooner Than Later. I take it you know they will ship in November. Question is in what quantity? But I suppose it wouldn't take many delivered to Apple for them to start offering it. I read a report recently that says the Woodcrest motherboards are all built to Clovertown Thermal spec. So it may indeed simply be a processor option Apple can tack onto the current BTO page. Wonder about the differetn RAM speed Clovertown uses though. Perhaps it will get it's own BTO Page. Since demand may not be fierce for Clovertown to begin with due to much higher cost, a small supply in Apple's manufacturing plants may be enough for them to add it early on. Here's hoping anyway. Thanks for the leak. I'm sure your credibility is impeccable.

Just because Intel is shipping doesn't mean Apple is going to use them right away. Merom would be an example of a faster/better chip that is currently being ignored by Apple even though it's been shipping for over a month. Based on how long it took Apple to get a Woodcrest box out and it's slow adaptation to Merom, I don't think we will see any major chip changes until MWSF '07. I think Apple will want to choose if and when and not get too influenced by what Intel does. They are arrogant enough to ignore what's going on in the PC world. It costs a lot of overhead to be caught up in the chip race. I believe that Apple will put it's emphasis on products and services over how fast they can make their computers go.

 

[Trekkie]

Just because Intel is shipping doesn't mean Apple is going to use them right away. Merom would be an example of a faster/better chip that is currently being ignored by Apple even though it's been shipping for over a month. Based on how long it took Apple to get a Woodcrest box out and it's slow adaptation to Merom, I don't think we will see any major chip changes until MWSF '07.

How long? They announced the Mac Pro, what, 8/6 right? (sorry don't have calendar handy). Intel Launched Woodcrest 6/28...you might be confusing Dempsey and Woodcrest because Dempsey did launch in May. A few months I would constitute as 'long' but when you're refreshing a product line from one architecture to another and SHIPPING it the day you announce 8/6 isn't 'long'

You could have been like the other guy, announce a system 06/28 but they didn't ship em until recently. Read the fine print of the announces, all of them say 'available within 45 days' where as Apple was able to say Available now, except mine which needs a wireless card and that apparently is a few weeks from now.

 

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I Think Core 2 Duo Will Be In Everything By Thanksgiving

Just because Intel is shipping doesn't mean Apple is going to use them right away. Merom would be an example of a faster/better chip that is currently being ignored by Apple even though it's been shipping for over a month. Based on how long it took Apple to get a Woodcrest box out and it's slow adaptation to Merom, I don't think we will see any major chip changes until MWSF '07. I think Apple will want to choose if and when and not get too influenced by what Intel does. They are arrogant enough to ignore what's going on in the PC world. It costs a lot of overhead to be caught up in the chip race. I believe that Apple will put it's emphasis on products and services over how fast they can make their computers go.

Say what? Merom is only just now begining to be manufactured and will ship in a large quantity to Apple first half of September. No way is Apple going to sit on Core 2 Duo for the entire line 'til January. NO WAY.

How long? They announced the Mac Pro, what, 8/6 right? (sorry don't have calendar handy). Intel Launched Woodcrest 6/28...you might be confusing Dempsey and Woodcrest because Dempsey did launch in May. A few months I would constitute as 'long' but when you're refreshing a product line from one architecture to another and SHIPPING it the day you announce 8/6 isn't 'long'

You could have been like the other guy, announce a system 06/28 but they didn't ship em until recently. Read the fine print of the announces, all of them say 'available within 45 days' where as Apple was able to say Available now, except mine which needs a wireless card and that apparently is a few weeks from now.

Absolutely. Apple is very aggresively shipping Core 2 Duo Woodcrests as soon as it was practical to make them available to the masses.

 

[Roy]

Multiple Internal Hard Drives

I've never had more than one internal hard drive in a computer, but I've had several external hard drives. With an external hard drive, I would turn it off until I wanted to store some data, but with multiple internal hard drives is there someway to turn off the other hard drives and just have only the main hard drive spinning.

 

[rimbaud@mac.com]

Mac LightSpeecd

The Mac LightSpeed is like a big iPod:
Has no moving parts.
Is light-rechargeable (solar).
Has 2GB of RAM.
Has 40GB of Flash Memory (removable and upgradeable).
Comes with a bluetooth remote that is also a VOIP phone.
Comes with a sling that lets you carry it anywhere like a purse.
Connects to WiFi or EV-DO.
Has an 11" widescreen.
Dock includes a Blue-Ray sync drive, DVI port for widescreen HD output to a monitor.

 

[THX1139]

Say what? Merom is only just now begining to be manufactured and will ship in a large quantity to Apple first half of September. No way is Apple going to sit on Core 2 Duo for the entire line 'til January. NO WAY.Absolutely. Apple is very aggresively shipping Core 2 Duo Woodcrests as soon as it was practical to make them available to the masses.

Oops...sorry. I was thinking of Conroe. Duh!

 

[THX1139]

I've never had more than one internal hard drive in a computer, but I've had several external hard drives. With an external hard drive, I would turn it off until I wanted to store some data, but with multiple internal hard drives is there someway to turn off the other hard drives and just have only the main hard drive spinning.

Just put in sleep mode and they will spin down. Modern drives don't need to be turned off. Least I can't think of any reason they would need to be.

 

[Chuck]

Has anyone had a Mac Pro with Airport installed shipped yet? I am hoping that they are not far away. The 2 weeks of my 2-4 weeks is up on Tuesday.

Hi Glassbathroom,

I don't know, but I'd like to! I also ordered airport, but my order was only a week ago so there's still a bit of a wait for me.

Hope you get yours soon.

Chuck.

 

[relimw]

Has anyone had a Mac Pro with Airport installed shipped yet? I am hoping that they are not far away. The 2 weeks of my 2-4 weeks is up on Tuesday.

My 3 weeks were up yesterday, and it hasn't shipped yet.

 

[glassbathroom]

My 3 weeks were up yesterday, and it hasn't shipped yet.

It can't be 3 weeks. They only went on sale on the 8th. 2 maybe

 

[Roy]

Just put in sleep mode and they will spin down. Modern drives don't need to be turned off. Least I can't think of any reason they would need to be.

But can you put an additional internal hard drive (HD 2) in a sleep mode while keeping the hard drive with the system on it (HD 1) still working?

 

[Trekkie]

But can you put an additional internal hard drive (HD 2) in a sleep mode while keeping the hard drive with the system on it (HD 1) still working?

1-800-APPLESTORE or your countries equivalent, and ask them.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

It can't be 3 weeks. They only went on sale on the 8th. 2 maybe

'course he can. He obviously has the ability to manipulate time and space in order to get Apple products before everyone else.

MY 3 weeks is up on Monday. This wait has thus far been thoroughly unhealthy for me.

 

[Chuck]

Argh, what a tease...

My Applecare arrived on it's own on Wednesday and then the 23" ACD arrived yesterday... Now they are just sitting there saying "Ha-ha" (insert Nelson voice).

Chuck.

 

[THX1139]

Apple shipping times

Argh, what a tease...

My Applecare arrived on it's own on Wednesday and then the 23" ACD arrived yesterday... Now they are just sitting there saying "Ha-ha" (insert Nelson voice).

Chuck.

I hope Apple gets it's "bleep" together on these BTO Macpros! At first I thought the long delays were due to the machines being so new and they needed to ramp up production. Now I have a suspicion that long delay on BTO will be the norm. 3 to 5 weeks just to add or replace generic components is ridiculous! I was hoping that as time went by, the shipping times would get shorter. They will lose sales in the long run if they can't deliver these machines within a 10 day period. If a Mac based studio lands a big contract that requires extra machines, they probably aren't going to have the luxury to wait up to 5 weeks to get the boxes required to do the job. 3 to 4 weeks is an eternity when it comes to computers!

 

[relimw]

It can't be 3 weeks. They only went on sale on the 8th. 2 maybe

For some reason I seem to have been time warping again....
Or maybe it was a rounding error/wishful thinking

 

[glassbathroom]

Mac Pro Ram now showing up on Crucial UK and US, but only in 512MB modules and they are not in stock when you hit order. I guess they are coming soon.