Mac Pro CPU Upgradeability Confirmed With Processor Swap

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Following the release of the mac pro, a quick teardown by Other World Computing (OWC) revealed that the tower's Intel Xeon E5 processor was socketed and removable, theoretically allowing for future upgrades. All CPUs in the Mac Pro were found to use the same LGA 2011 socket standardized on the Mac Pro's motherboard.

    Today OWC confirmed that the Mac Pro's processor is indeed upgradeable, successfully replacing the default Intel E5-1650 V2 6-core 3.50Ghz processor with an Intel E5-2667 V2 8-core 3.30GHz processor with 25MB of L3 cache, an option not offered by Apple. The upgraded processor gave OWC's machine a 30 percent multi-processor performance boost, outperforming Apple's standard 8-core option with a Geekbench score of 27004 vs. 24429.

    With a replaceable CPU, customers can purchase more affordable lower-configuration Mac Pros that can be updated in the future as processor prices drop. Prices for multi-core processors today remain high, with the CPU OWC used from Intel priced at $2000. Apple's own CPU upgrade options range in price from $500 to $3500. Based on the 3.7Ghz quad-core Intel Xeon E5 with 10MB of L3 cache, pricing from Apple is as follows:

    - 3.5GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5 with 12MB of L3 cache: +$500
    - 3.0GHz 8-core Intel Xeon E5 with 25MB of L3 cache: +$2000
    - 2.7GHz 12-core Intel Xeon E5 with 30MB of L3 cache: +$3500

    The upgradeable CPU in the Mac Pro is a deviation from standard practice for Apple, with most consumer-oriented Macs featuring soldered processors. Along with a removable CPU, Mac Pro buyers are also able to upgrade memory and other components. In a recent teardown, iFixit gave the Mac Pro a repairability score of 8 out of 10, highlighting the easily accessible internal components and the non-proprietary screws.

    Apple's Mac Pro is currently available exclusively through the online Apple Store. Due to low supply and high demand, new orders are not expected to ship until February or later, but customers who placed orders shortly after the computer went on sale have begun receiving units.

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  2. jmthigpen macrumors regular

    Apr 18, 2011
    Charleston, SC
  3. Lesser Evets macrumors 68040

    Lesser Evets

    Jan 7, 2006
    That ruins some doubters' rainy day parades. That new Pro isn't bad, from the reports coming out.
  4. sransari macrumors 6502

    Feb 11, 2005
    NOWWW we're talkin...I understand that maybe Apple doesn't want to advertise after-market upgrades, but these types of simple, inexpensive, and effective upgrades is what makes Pro towers so valuable and desirable.
  5. MacHumors macrumors member

    Oct 16, 2013
    A Kind of Alaska
    I'm blown away. But why did it take so long to figure this out? :D
  6. esposimi macrumors member

    Feb 18, 2008
  7. Redbeard25 macrumors regular


    Oct 4, 2003
    Because no one had one?

    So next questions - what procs will the MB accept? all LGA 2011s?
  8. ckelley macrumors regular

    Aug 25, 2003
    Austin, TX
    Future upgradability will be limited as when Intel moves their Xeons to Haswell, they're not going to use LGA 2011 anymore, so this generation of chips is all that you will be able to upgrade to.
  9. Freyqq macrumors 68040

    Dec 13, 2004
    Wow, I had no idea Xeon processors that that much L3 cache. 30 MB!
  10. cal6n macrumors 68000


    Jul 25, 2004
    Gloucester, UK

    Although I agree that most consumer-oriented Macs have featured soldered processors for some time, the Pro line has employed socketed processors exclusively as a matter of course as far back as I can recall. Certainly as far back as the G3 PowerMacs and most likely even before that.
  11. OrangeSVTguy macrumors 601


    Sep 16, 2007
    Northeastern Ohio
    I'd buy the new Mac Pro if I could some how shoehorn my Titans in place of the firepros :D


    That'd be worth knowing since the 970-990x i7s worked on the previous gen Mac Pro.
  12. LPZ macrumors 65816

    Jul 11, 2006
    Not sure I'd use "simple", but then I've never swapped a CPU. (I did successfully replace the HD in a 2006 Core 2 iMac, which certainly wasn't simple :) ).
  13. Chicane-UK macrumors 6502

    Apr 26, 2008
    The sceptic in me can't help but wonder if Apple will alter the system firmware to only work with and boot up with certain CPU's installed. I'd love to believe that they won't, but it somehow seems inevitable.
  14. iBug2 macrumors 68040

    Jun 12, 2005
    Why would they? If the TDP is within the limits, it should boot with any processor you throw at it.
  15. macchiato2009 macrumors 65816

    Aug 14, 2009
  16. tanousjm macrumors member

    Jul 5, 2009
    This is awesome and a nice surprise. Although, to the article's point about soldered CPUs, some iMacs to this day feature socketed CPUs, as I learned during a recent project. (But they are indeed a heck of a lot more difficult to replace than on the Mac Pro ;))

    I thought socketed CPUs in iMacs ended around the 2007-era, but many folks pointed my attention to the teardown of the 2013 iMac.
  17. Rogifan macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2011
    Looks like iFixit did an additional tear down on the nMP fan.


  18. jm001 macrumors 6502a


    Sep 19, 2011
    "The upgradeable CPU in the Mac Pro is a deviation from standard practice for Apple, with most consumer-oriented Macs featuring soldered processors."

    It really isn't a deviation from the standard of the desktop pro line. With the powermac towers one was able to easily swap the processors with even 3rd party CPUs. I'm glad to see Apple going back to upgradeable models.
  19. Goftrey macrumors 68000


    May 20, 2011
    Wales, UK
    If you can replace a hard drive in an '06 iMac than swapping out a CPU is bread & butter. Those iMacs are feckin' nightmares to work on. ;)
  20. rodrigoluizb macrumors member

    Jul 30, 2013
    Campinas, SP, Brazil
    They replace a 6 cores processor for a 8 core processor. That means i can have 16 cores with dual 8 cores Xeons?
  21. Stephent macrumors member

    Jan 31, 2012
    No there is only one processor in the nMP
  22. MagnusVonMagnum macrumors 601


    Jun 18, 2007
    Too bad you can't order the new Mac Pro without any CPUs in it. The problem with ordering a lower model and then upgrading to a higher CPU model is that you're still stuck with the original CPU. I suppose you can try to sell it, but you're not going to get what you paid for it (relative to the cost of the machine) back. Unfortunately, Apple won't sell bare-bones machines and let users upgrade it themselves because they make all their BILLIONS by bending the customer over and shoving the parts in themselves at 200-600% markup. :eek:
  23. proline macrumors 6502a

    Nov 18, 2012
    Don't worry, the whiners will move on to their next perceived issue or just go back to the garbage about lack of internal storage.
  24. broadscotch macrumors newbie

    Nov 13, 2013

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