[Mac Pro] How do I boot from my Mac OS X Install DVD with 8800GT?

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  1. TheSpaz macrumors 604

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    Okay, I got the 8800GT card, now I have to revert back to 10.5.2 and I CAN'T do that because I can't boot from the Install DVD anymore. I figured I would outsmart the computer by plugging the display into the old 7300 card and then booting but, I get a kernel panic every time. What do I have to do if I need to re-install OS X? Unplug my computer, open it, take out the 8800, put the computer back together, boot from DVD, install, and then reinstall the 8800? This is ridiculous!
     
  2. D4F Guest

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    Just wondering as I don't know but why you need to go back to 10.5.2 and what does it have to do with the nVidia card?
     
  3. tribe3 macrumors 6502

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    I'm not an expert but Leopard dvd is 10.5.0 and the 8800GT will only boot starting from 10.5.2.

    I believe you will have to put back your 7300 in its place; re-install Leopard (if that's what you want to do) and than do all the updates before re-connecting the 8800
     
  4. Infrared macrumors 68000

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    You can create a new Install DVD consisting
    of your old one + the 8800GT display drivers.
     
  5. TheSpaz thread starter macrumors 604

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    I don't even know where the drivers are located to even try that.
     
  6. Infrared macrumors 68000

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    Drivers are in '/System/Library/Extensions'.

    You can compare what's on your disk with
    what came on the DVD.

    Then again, if you're not comfortable with
    that, you could ask Apple for a new DVD.

    The argument for them giving you one is
    compelling, I'd say.
     
  7. nick9191 macrumors 68040

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    Just reinstall with the 7300/x1900, then update, then pop in the 8800.

    Or am I missing something?
     
  8. Tbarr macrumors member

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    Actually you CAN install from the DVD without being booted from it. You just need another bootable partition or external drive to install/boot onto, and, only want to perform a 'First Time' Install. I do not think an 'Upgrade or 'Archive and Install' will work using this method. One more reason to use a 'System Only' partition and keep everything else on other Partitions/Disks. The only reason you need to boot to the DVD is if you only have one bootable partition, you need to format that drive, your only existing System is so FUBARed that it won't run long enough to install a new OS from, or you need to do an 'Archive and Install'.

    Example - In my case it would be easy, I would boot to my System BackUp partition. I would use Disk Utility to erase my main System partition. I would then run TinkerTool and tell it to 'Show hidden and system files' and relaunch the Finder. Then insert DVD, open the System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg package. From there, it's just like installing while booted from the DVD. You can even install the Combo updates to the new install while not booted to it.

    I would highly recommend that those people in your position keep a bootable System backup partition handy ;)

    Oh, make sure you run the OSInstall.mpkg, not the OSInstall.pkg.
    Good Luck
     
  9. TheSpaz thread starter macrumors 604

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    What if I put the install DVD into my brother's PowerBook G4, put my Mac Pro into target disk mode, boot from the DVD in the PowerBook G4, then select my Mac Pro drive in the list of drives, then do an Archive and Install.
     
  10. TheSpaz thread starter macrumors 604

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    Any idea what the drivers are named?
     
  11. chas0001 macrumors 6502a

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    I don't think that would work because there are 2 different versions of OS X. One for Intel (your MAC PRO) and the other for PPC (the PowerBook). When you try and install OS X from the PowerBook onto the target disc mode Disk it will most definitely install the PowerPc version. Therefore, you would not be able to boot the Mac Pro.
     
  12. Infrared macrumors 68000

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    For NVidia in general:

    Code:
    /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce.kext
    /System/Library/Extensions/GeForceVADriver.bundle
    /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce2MXGLDriver.bundle
    /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce3GLDriver.bundle
    /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce8xxxGLDriver.bundle
    /System/Library/Extensions/GeForceFXGLDriver.bundle
    /System/Library/Extensions/GeForceGA.plugin
    /System/Library/Extensions/NVDAResman.kext
    /System/Library/Extensions/NVDANV10Hal.kext
    /System/Library/Extensions/NVDANV20Hal.kext
    /System/Library/Extensions/NVDANV30Hal.kext
    /System/Library/Extensions/NVDANV40Hal.kext
    /System/Library/Extensions/NVDANV50Hal.kext
    I'm not sure which are specifically for the 8800GT.
    'kexstat' on the command line will tell you which
    extensions have been loaded, so that may help
    to narrow down the list somewhat.
     
  13. krye macrumors 68000

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    You can save yourself this hassle now and the hassle in the future if you have to install again by getting a new disk. You can get an updated copy from apple for $17.
     
  14. TheSpaz thread starter macrumors 604

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    Yeah, I realized that after I posted... I might try making that custom boot DVD with the 8800 drivers loaded on it. What I'm gonna do is take any file with a date that is newer (in the Extensions folder) than the factory DVD and put it on my custom DVD. Hopefully that will work. Are DVD/CD Master disk images read/write or write only? ... or do I have to make a read/write disk image?
     
  15. krye macrumors 68000

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    How do you make an OS X copy?. I'd like to carry a copy of Leopard in my laptop bag in case I hose my system while on the road, but I don't want to carry my original in case it gets damaged. I have the retail copy. Do I need a dual layer disk for that? And how do you make it bootable? Or is a 1-1 copy using Disk Utility enough to take care of all of that? As in create a .dmg and then burn it.
     
  16. TheSpaz thread starter macrumors 604

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    How do I purchase this $17 disc?
     
  17. tyr2 macrumors 6502a

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    Seconded, where can this disk be ordered from? Do I have to return my Leopard retail disk as proof of purchase?

    I was planning to sell my 1900XT after an upgrade but it seems that might not be possible at the moment.
     
  18. TheSpaz thread starter macrumors 604

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    I talked to a Mac Genius at the Apple Store yesterday and he was fully prepared to trade out my 10.5.0 disc with a 10.5.2 or 10.5.3 disc until he found out that all they have for retail discs are 10.5.1 so far. He told me to wait until Apple starts shipping a 10.5.3 disc and come back and he'll trade my 10.5.0 with 10.5.3. Sweet!
     
  19. Hmac macrumors 68020

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    Hmmm....I wonder if this 10.5.3 disk will have upgraded Boot Camp drivers on it.....drivers that would be suitable for running the 8800GT under Windows XP.
     
  20. tyr2 macrumors 6502a

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    Interesting indeed. Thanks.
     
  21. macintosh tech macrumors member

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    My Mac Pro w/ 8800GT came with a 10.5.1 disc and it loads fine. Just a heads up if you needed it right away.
     
  22. TheSpaz thread starter macrumors 604

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    That might be a special 10.5.1 disc with the 8800GT drivers on it.
     
  23. killr_b macrumors 6502a

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    My retail 10.5.1 disc has GeForce 8xxx drivers on it.
    Maybe you should ask the guy at the Apple store to trade you and see if it works?
     
  24. almostinsane macrumors regular

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    If its one of the new January 08 Mac Pro's then it came with a 10.5.1 disc that has the drivers on it.
     
  25. TheSpaz thread starter macrumors 604

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    Hmmm.... The card "requires" 10.5.2 in order to boot.
     

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