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Mac Pro is out of stock in most CA Apple Stores

Peace said:
You're not gonna see a new Mac Pro until WWDC if at all.
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I disagree. I don't think we'll see any Mac announcements at WWDC. It's going to be all about iOS 6 with some "look how Mountain Lion is doing". The most you might see Mac related is a Mountain Lion ship date.

Which makes pre or post WWDC the appropriate time for Mac updates. Apple isn't going to want to devote time in the keynote to hardware.
 
Normally the store goes down around 10 am UK time for new products so it looks as though the 1st of May is out.
 
theSeb said:
Normally the store goes down around 10 am UK time for new products so it looks as though the 1st of May is out.
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Actually it usually goes down just around noon UK time, so there is time yet, but given the lack of leaks of new product codes from Mr X, I suspect today isn't happening too.
 
Gosh, I remember how there was so much excitement when Steve announced the PowerMac G5s back in 2003, and now here we are 9 years later thinking they are finished. ugh.
 
You know what is ironic is that if Apple really wanted to they could have had a huge share of the desktop market beyond the imac if only they didn't have their heads stuck in the mud, especially with the popularity of iphone and ipad as introductions to the mac platforms. Lost opportunity. PC sales may be down due to portables, but they still plenty enough to make loads of money.
 
aurichie said:
When the Apple store does go down for the refresh in July, the Mac Pro will vanish completely upon it coming back up.
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In all seriousness, again I highly doubt this. If they discontinue there will be a sunset like the XServe. If only because the Mac Pro was the replacement for the XServe.

If people have Mac Pros in racks or in server rooms they have to give people enough time to order spare boxes.
 
goMac said:
If people have Mac Pros in racks or in server rooms they have to give people enough time to order spare boxes.
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I never replaced my Xserves. I stopped buying OS X server instead. Don't know anyone with Pro's in their rooms.
 
derbothaus said:
I never replaced my Xserves. I stopped buying OS X server instead. Don't know anyone with Pro's in their rooms.
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I know of a few places that both horded XServes at sunset, and installed a few Mac Pros in their racks.

From what I heard, the Apple reps were also pushing buyers to give their "constructive feedback" to Apple over the XServe cancellation.
 
goMac said:
I know of a few places that both horded XServes at sunset, and installed a few Mac Pros in their racks.

From what I heard, the Apple reps were also pushing buyers to give their "constructive feedback" to Apple over the XServe cancellation.
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I met with them. It was like an empty sad keynote. They made their promises and spoke of their unwavering support of the enterprise and that they can't talk about any products but just wait, wink wink. I didn't have much faith. They were well trained by Apple brainwashing though. You can watch them actually try to decipher a legitimate question and send it through their personal spin zone. It was fun for me but sad in the end as I saw them for the zombies they kind of are:eek:
 
U.S. Store is back up to 2-4 days on the 12 core custom. Nothing is changing for a while. Crap! I'm beginning to hate Apple, and their freaking iPad!
 
xgman said:
You know what is ironic is that if Apple really wanted to they could have had a huge share of the desktop market beyond the imac if only they didn't have their heads stuck in the mud, especially with the popularity of iphone and ipad as introductions to the mac platforms. Lost opportunity. PC sales may be down due to portables, but they still plenty enough to make loads of money.
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You got that right... there heads are stuck somewhere... where the sun dont shine...
 
derbothaus said:
I met with them. It was like an empty sad keynote. They made their promises and spoke of their unwavering support of the enterprise and that they can't talk about any products but just wait, wink wink. I didn't have much faith. They were well trained by Apple brainwashing though. You can watch them actually try to decipher a legitimate question and send it through their personal spin zone. It was fun for me but sad in the end as I saw them for the zombies they kind of are:eek:
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I think the enterprise team is full of good intentions, all of which are sunk by infighting. Last I heard, there is no real server team any more (which hopefully was not true.)

I don't think they are brainwashed, just fenced in.
 
not1lost said:
You got that right... there heads are stuck somewhere... where the sun dont shine...
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Some would call it focus. Everyone knows Apple like to only focus on a few things at a time.

Also I don't think a consumer tower will help Apple take any market share anyways. People are switching to mobile devices in droves, desktops are going to be a niche market. If apple wanted to increase market share it would be to make a cheaper macbook.

Doesn't make sense to focus on a shrinking market.
 
geniusmac said:
How is it good evidence for a Thursday release?
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It's a guess that the date is going to begin counting down to Thursday/Friday.

As good as pretty much any other guess at this point. But any stock fluctuations at all are a good sign.
 
not1lost said:
You got that right... there heads are stuck somewhere... where the sun dont shine...
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No - both of you have it wrong to even remotely think Apple has their head in the mud or where the sun don't shine or wherever.

Look at their innovation and financial and distribution performance.

Put things in perspective guys.

And yes, I am waiting for a new MP as well - my guess has been April to early May - soon.......
 
salmoally said:
Also I don't think a consumer tower will help Apple take any market share anyways. People are switching to mobile devices in droves, desktops are going to be a niche market. If apple wanted to increase market share it would be to make a cheaper macbook.
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Unfortunatly very true...

Look at these trends for the most populars mac computer systems

Now the same trends with those of Apple's mobile devices

Apple's computer systems simply disappear in the masses of searches made for their iPhone and iPad. Those mobile devices have become, in a couples of years, the main source of profit for the company.

That's not to say that Apple computers are going to disappear right away, but I think we might see a consolidation...
All laptops will converge to the Air form factor, a sleek computer that can only be extended through the Thunderbolt port (difficult upgrade of RAM and SSD).
The iMac remains a great desktop computer, with a limited lifetime (due to the GPU) that suits most consumer, I don't see this line changing much except to abandon hard disk in favor of SSD for internal storage.
The mac mini will see a consolidation once the enclosure can accept a 4-core processor AND a GPU, probably abandoning the dual-disk option for a full SSD internal storage, since all macs can get mass storage options in Thunderbolt (or USB 3) or through a cloud.

The mac Pro is the real issue...
As a server it doesn't make much sense, real server people are probably more apt at configuring linux stations, and for small server a mini with Thunderbolt peripherals can probably do most jobs efficiently.

As a workstation it suffers from the fact that even Intel releases its workstation CPU with technologies from the previous consumer CPU generation, but also from the fact that both AMD and Nvidia GPU offering for Apple's workstation is very limited.
Unless Apple does something bold (like developing their own GPU offering), there aren't a lot of reasons, beside some Apple owned softwares, to keep using Apple workstations.

I guess an answer will come soon. Personally, since Apple took the time to push forward Final Cut X, and Apple computers are still needed to develop iOS apps, I still believe there is hope for the Pro line, or other computers as long as their lines are consolidated (one simple offering with built to order options).
 
Torrijos said:
The mac Pro is the real issue...
As a server it doesn't make much sense, real server people are probably more apt at configuring linux stations, and for small server a mini with Thunderbolt peripherals can probably do most jobs efficiently.
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Huh? It actually makes a lot of sense as a server, not as much as the XServe, but...

The Mac Pro has great stuff like user replaceable parts, PCI-E slots for things like Fiber Channel, lots of drive space, including SAS, and enough cores for XGrid usage.

Thunderbolt doesn't fix the XGrid problem. It can possible fix the drive space and fiber channel problems, but it makes the Mini far from a drop in replacement.

Linux doesn't really fix issues like no serving to iPads, no official AFP support, no official Mac Open Directory server, and no XGrid support.

Servers are a lot more than a generic box full of hard drives. I could imagine serving a large scale Mac LDAP installation off of a Mini or Linux. That would be insane.
 
theSeb said:
So it's Thursday.... Why won't this damn Apple store close?
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Because it's not going to happen today. Apple can't pull their heads out of the iPad long enough to even know it's Thursday, much less to build a new Mac Pro. Is it just me, or is everybody else sick of looking at, and hearing about the iPad? I'm really getting tired of having this thing crammed down my throat everytime I turn on the TV, or read an article about Apple.
 
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