Mac Pro ..... LONG term

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by Srtlewis, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. Srtlewis macrumors newbie

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    So here we are, I have a 2011 iMac that is burning up (GPU and bad design). It is my first and last all in one, I am now in need of a "new" Mac. I would love to know some 1000+ days on how the nMP is running for anyone who bought it in 2013. I am done lamenting the lack of updates ect, but looking for how this thing has held up long term. My plan is to sit and wait for any spec bump and either buy or pick up a refurb. If it can run Avid and LightRoom better than my current iMac great but just need reliability over all else.
     
  2. Supermacguy macrumors 6502

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    I do not have the TrashCan Mac Pro, I have a 2009 dual processor. Upgraded to 5,1 firmware; has a new fast video card; can/does run Sierra. I will keep it. When it officially becomes obsolete there are ways to trick OS installers to install on unsupported machines. I could even still upgrade the processors if I wanted to. The cheese graters are far from dead, and still very capable. IMO it's actually a safer bet to buy one of those than the nMP.
     
  3. rpmurray macrumors member

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    Apple has already decided to drop the Mac Pro, they just haven't publicly announced it yet. When they do they'll say that there's been declining demand for the three plus year old nMP so it's no longer profitable and it's not what their customers want. Their new Pro desktops will be iMacs that are not upgradable.

    Inaction and lack of innovation speaks louder than words.
     
  4. 8692574 Suspended

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    As much as I agree, waiting for WWDC is a safer bet, if we hear no words of a new Mac Pro by then, then we can safely say the Mac Pro is dead.....i guess.

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    I would buy a used one, if only I knew that at least till 10.15 it could run the OS without tricks.
     
  5. Draeconis macrumors 6502a

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    I use one at work, it's pretty good, but it's outrageously expensive and outdated for a 4 year old machine. Its value proposition has certainly decreased over time. If you desperately need a machine (like, yours has just blown up), then look at an iMac first, as depending on your workflow they can be better.

    If you have your heart set on a Mac Pro, and you can justify it as a business cost, then just buy it and crack on. But it's not really worth what Apple are charging.
     
  6. steveOooo macrumors 6502a

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    I would get a second hand 2010 of fleabay and if applicable upgrade to 6/12 cores, stick a PC Card in like a amd r9 380 and use a ssd for the boot drive
     
  7. rawweb macrumors 6502a

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    I've had a loaded 6,1 since just after they came out (early 2014). Running strong to this day. Never had a major issue with it, it's been very reliable and has rarely ever been shut off. Certainly not worth the price tag these days...I don't even think I would advise my worst enemy to buy it 'new'. At this stage in its life cycle, I'd sit tight and wait for news from the powers that be about a refresh or see if they decide to take it out back with old yeller.
     
  8. Pistol Peto macrumors member

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    Same here - got it Jan 2014 and have LOVED it. I'll need a new one in a year and repurpose mine. I hope :apple: has a new Mac Pro model by then. I'll be seriously pissed if they don't!
     
  9. rawweb macrumors 6502a

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    I'm going to run into trouble at work in the next month or two as my machine has reached the end of it's support cycle (AppleCare) and IT doesn't typically like to have main production computers without instant support (hence how I lost my 2010 tower). I've been a long proponent of  in our marketing department while the rest of the company is win based. This might be just the chance they've been waiting for to pounce on me and force me to switch without a viable alternative. Hoping I can slip under the radar until 2018 as they might not want to dink with me for a while as this machine cost over 8k in 2014. Doubt it will have depreciated off the books just yet...not including the insane cost I was able to spill on a Lacie Thunderbolt 2 RAID Rack!
     
  10. pat500000 macrumors G3

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    it's politics. That's it. Nothing more..nothing less. This so-called, "mac pro" trash can edition is something I'll have to pick one up with this apple gift card. No longer will I ever purchase gift card again.

    I saw a video from one of the member of MR stating that you can upgrade processors and have better eGPU. So i'm planning on that.
     
  11. violst macrumors 6502

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    I also got the nMP new in January 2014. And just like rawweb and Pistol Peto It has been rock solid. It runs 24/7 and no problems to speak of. The only problem I have is it's long in the tooth and I am in desperate need of an upgrade. Apple has been screwing around with the Mac Pro community far to long and I need to know that they support an upgrade path for the mac pro. They will never let you know that info. I have been thinking about going the PC route for a long time because of apples lack of support. I think my next system may be an HP z840. Its a shame, I have been an apple user for a very long time, and that may change very soon.
     
  12. Srtlewis thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for all the replies. Really helpful I can hold out till march and limp the iMac through but will need to buy before the new tax year here in the U.K. I found a 6 core refurbished with a heafty discount so am tempted.
     
  13. Srtlewis thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Update. Managed to pick up a 8c d700 1tb ex-display with a cosmetic imperfections (small scratch on the back) for £2000 off. So pretty happy here, it had only been on the shop floor for 3months so has apple care. To be honest this is about a fair price and what apple shoul be charging. Oh well I no longer really care what they do as this is probably my last Mac.
     
  14. Neodym macrumors 68000

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    Computers are usually depreciated to Zero (formal: 1€/1$/1whatevercurrencyunit) over 3-4 years, independently from original invest.
     
  15. Jayson A macrumors 68000

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    My 2006 Mac Pro 1,1 is still running strong to this day, but unfortunately it's not possible to upgrade to Sierra with it, so I just bought a 5,1 Quad-Core 3.2Ghz on eBay. It arrives today actually... I'm so excited!
     
  16. BornAgainMac macrumors 603

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    When Apple shows a slide after the iMac refresh that this is their best Mac lineup ever: MacBook, MacBook Pro, iMac
    Then you will know that the Mac mini and Mac Pro are dead along with the Air.
     
  17. dtechlogic macrumors regular

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    I had though about getting an Imac but it is not upgradable and it is too expensive. Also I though about a Hackintosh but still I will encounter problem during OSX updates. I was ready to give up on my Mac Pro 5,1 12core 2.4GHZ but I decided to go with the updates. Will be replacing the CPU this coming week and adding USB 3 to it also. Will end up spending less than what I could have spend on a Hackintosh or a new IMAC. I am excited. So for the older MAC PRO they are still holding up and not dying that easily. I even put up my Mac Pro on sale on craigs+list thinking that it is old. Then I sat down though about it. It is upgradeable and I can still use it for maybe another 5 years before it becomes obsolete and useless. This was my First MAC PRO when I bought it. As a Techy guy with experience on PC. I can still depend on my MAC Pro 5,1.
     
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  19. Jayson A macrumors 68000

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    That means nothing. The Mac Pro 1,1 lasted me 11 years (and still works perfectly fine). The Mac Pro 5,1 will stay relevant for a long time.
     
  20. pat500000 macrumors G3

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    Unless the next OS X update prevents you from updating and app requires you to update.
     
  21. goMac macrumors 603

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    Yeppppp. I'm not saying it will be the next update, but this is coming.

    I know there is a lot of cheese grater pride here, but buying one now as a long term machine would be extremely foolish.

    Once machines hit legacy, Apple generally drops them.
     
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    Well, unless the software you use forces you to update the OS, there's seldom a compelling reason to upgrade to the latest MacOS. My workstation (5,1 Dual 6-Core 3.46GHz) is doing fine on Mavericks, and I get my work done just fine at the moment, though I may need to upgrade to El Capitan next year.

    Whenever a new MacOS is introduced, I always download and save the install dmg in case an upgrade is (eventually) needed. That way I'm not forced to use the most recent OS. I've got the Mavericks install as well as El Cap and Sierrra. The only one I never got was Yosemite.

    It helps to always have options, since Apple is less inclined to provide those options.
     
  23. Yahooligan macrumors 6502a

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    Can you name any apps that require Sierra and don't run on El Cap or Yosemite? While an app update can certainly set new minimum requirements, I've never been forced to "upgrade or die."
     
  24. Sharky II macrumors 6502a

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    Logic X now only supports El Capitan or higher. It's not unreasonable to think that Logic 11 will require Sierra or higher, depending on when it comes out... which phases out lots of the less computer savvy 4,1 owners (that won't flash their machines etc).
     
  25. Yahooligan macrumors 6502a

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    IF they want to update. Updating just to update is a great way to phase your hardware out, if what you have works and does what you need then it's not going to randomly stop working just because there's a newer version available. What you're talking about is exactly what Apple counts on to drive hardware sales, but it's hardly required if your existing setup is working just fine.
     

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