Mac Pro Graphics/Boot Disaster! I need a MAC PRO VETERIAN !!! I will go into detail! I have read HUNDREDS of THREADS! I usually fix all my own Mac Pro problems, but I am really stuck here. Since 2008 I have owned my Mac Pro. I began with the GT 8800 GPU, then the ATI 570, then a PC flashed GTX 285, now I run a GTX 680 MAC EDITION. Despite being a mac edition I get no boot option screen! I put up with it. I only need boot camp windows for games, which I cant seem to give up! I tell OSX to boot to windows when on MAC, and I tell Windows to boot to OSX from PC. Yesterday Windows 7 (Im not allowed to run 8 thanks again Apple), which resides on its own hard drive had a massive fail that appeared to result from a Trojan that windows security center detected and removed. After this nothing with an .exe file would run. So for example when I started up in Windows 7 (My ONLY boot option until Im in a working windows environment) I would only see a black screen. I would then CTRL ALT DEL into task manager and run explorer. Once opened everything I tried to run, even from task manager would not start, it would display the side by side error! I even had no internet, none of the three browsers would start, it could not find any connection etc. The problem was that the BOOT CAMP helper/ tools/ grey diamond icon program would not start, along with everything else! This meant I had no way to tell the machine to restart into windows! No windows repair disc could fix it period (it keep saying wrong disc error etc.). The only thing I could do was reformat the Windows partition (a stand alone HD as I dont like partitioning a physical disc into multiple virtual discs a lesson leant the hard way over time) using the Windows 7 DVD. After the clean wipe I could not install Windows 7 and it indicated I should use the BOOT CAMP Assistant. Every time I started up the computer it would try to boot the blank windows HD and I as mentioned above it could not and usually can not get a boot screen. I could not change out the cards like was suggested because I sold them all on during a clean up. So I pulled the Windows 7 HD and expected the Mac Pro to boot to the only boot option left OSX, but no it persisted to try to boot from windows! I had this sort of boot problem once before just after I sold my cards. My back up strategy worked perfectly back then. I simply pulled all HDs including the OSX boot disc (In my case that's a software RAID 0 array of two Kingston Hyper X SSDs), then inserted my Carbon Clone Copied back up (a WD VelociRaptor backed up externally) and the Mac Pro started up perfectly. I then wiped the two SSDs and copied to them with the VelociRapter after moving it to the third bay, easy. However, on this occasion the WD VR would not boot, and the Mac Pro continued to attempt to boot from the non existent Windows HD! Talk about stubborn! Next I start the Mac Pro in target disc mode after pulling the VR and leaving the SSDs in their original location, bays 1 and 2. Using my MacBook Pro and disc utility I found nothing wrong with the SSDs? I was even able to copy over all the files off my desktop that would be absent from the month old back up on the CCC VR! Next I tried all the resets PRAM or VRAM, the bios SMC reset etc., nothing worked. After this the Mac Pro would not respond to ANY keyboard input PERIOD, yet the keyboard (wired) still lit up and made its usual start up chime (It's a Razer TRON and they do that, it was the only keyboard I could get with a left hand side number pad which I use for games). Worse still the Mac Pro would display only the grey screen with the fat apple logo (Since Yosemite, the screen first appears in a low res fat apple, then it changes to a smaller but clearly larger res apple logo and displays the start up bar indicator that only used to be displayed during firmware updated on previous OSX editions). Next I pulled every single thing but the keyboard and mouse from the outside of the MP and every HD from within. I started it up and it displayed the folder with a question mark. FINALLY I thought, it is looking for any boot up device but can find none! I then put back my SSDs and got the white screen apple logo, then just the CCC WD VR backup and got the same. I was so fed up! Next I tried to reinstall the bios firmware, thinking it must be corrupted. I downloaded the latest version from the apple site and burnt it to a cd with disc utility on my MacBook Pro. I even dug up the original DVD drive and installed that (which was not faulty but removed to make way for two more HDs installed with the OWC kit and plugged into the two extra SATA connectors on the motherboard). No matter what I did it would not use that disc, even though the DVD drive ran and flashed. I even researched how to run windows without BOOT CAMP but this seems a very sketchy option from what I found! Now here we are TWO full days later and HUNDREDS of posts read. Presently the Mac Pro takes turns at starting up with the white fat apple logo screen, or the popular black screen with the NO BOOTABLE DEVICE etc message. Yet even on the black screen it WILL NOT accept any keyboard input or start up from the CD/DVD. This is true even when I insert the firmware upgrade cd, the original apple install discs from 2008, or a purchased copy of Snow Leopard! My questions are this: 1. How can I fix this problem. 2. If I need an original graphics card I dont know anyone with one. I would have to search ebay, bid, win, wait for the postage, hope the seller had tested it, and that it fixes the problem. But I need this fixed ASAP, not in two weeks time. 3. I have been considering buying a new Mac Pro, but should I just give up on Apple, or at least on Mac Pros! Consider this: I loved Apple long before there were iSheep or Devotees, before ipad, iphone, ipod and Apple management MEGA greed. But they have really lost their way, maybe they will become the next NOKIA due to their arrogance and pursuit of every last dollar. 10 years ago things were great, but now the operating system is increasingly crappy, buggy, kiddy and internet dependent. They have killed install DVDs, removed firewire from some models and made fixing problems using firewire more difficult for those that remain, killed spare laptop batteries (seriously who can get their MacBook Pro to run for 8 hours?), and now they have killed upgradable internal HDs and Video cards in the new Mac Pro (Some argue that the cards could be upgraded but no company makes them or is likely to). When we upgraded to Yosemite we had to download 5 GB of data for 4 different Macs, due to the area I live in I could not get ANY fixed line connection and had fought with Telstra for a year trying to get a phone line! We were on a cellular 25 GB plan (The biggest on offer at that time) for $99 a month! When I went to the local apple store and demanded to know why I have to pay a hundred bucks to upgrade my computers because no usb or disc option exists they said bring the computers into our store and you can use our internet to upgrade Yer right, like Im going to take a Mac Mini, a Mac pro, a MacBook pro, a MacBook and two apple displays into the store and set them up there. We also have two Apple phones and two ipads which refused to even upgrade their ios over our cellular connection! These devices demand wifi, but at least it was easy to take those to a friends house and use their internet like a deadbeat! I have had so many Apple problems like this in the last 4 years its just not funny anymore, it is DEPRESSING! Even though I hate Windows perhaps I am better off at least building a standalone PC for gaming as Apple REFUSES to support raid for windows! Should I maybe build a Hackintosh instead?