Hi I'm a newbie to this forum so, please accept apologies in
advance for any posting which is not appropriate.
Configuration:
Please see attachment for System Profile information. The
machine has two internal drives; the original Apple included
250 GB ST3250820AS P and a 500 GB Seagate ST3500320AS
which I added. The 250 GB boots Tiger which had not been
used regularly for a while and was patched last Friday to
10.4.11. It seems like the symptom became worse after the
patching on the Tiger drive. The 500 GB drive runs Leopard
which is patched regularly and currently is at 10.5.6.
Symptoms:
Machine particularly after sitting overnight will not boot up.
Sometimes it makes it to the login prompt sometimes it does not.
It usually presents itself with an incomplete graphics character
screen (missing pieces), squiggly changing graphic characters,
or graphic characters that look similar to a test mode program.
The same problem can occur during a "wakeup" from sleep mode
with the machine idle for several minutes. The length of time
appears to track linearly to the problem.
I have occasionally allowed the machine to "self heal". After
20 minutes the machine will eventually come on line usually only
to repeat the same process during the next boot.
Workaround:
When this occurs the only way to get the machine back
on line quickly is to boot Tiger (Command-c) during boot
and run
Disk Utility -> Repair disk against the 500 GB drive. I do
hear disk thrashing while the problem is occurring which led
me to suspect an unclean shutdown but I believe that the
thrashing can also occur during a re-indexing operation for
Spotlight. After the disk repair is completed the OS will come on
line. When OX 10.5 is online if I remember to run a Disk Repair
against the 10.4 drive and boot from the 10.4 drive I can reduce
this startup fiasco.
Machine Usage: Primarily web cruising, streaming video from
Television programs (which I'm suspicious may
have contributed if not caused the problem)
and Logic Pro.
Fixes Attempted:
CTRL-v during startup to look at messages
Console troubleshooting
Disk Repair both Permissions and fsck
Extensive Hardware Diagnostics from Install DVD
Firmware upgrade on Seagate 500 GB
Clearing download lists from Firefox (primary browser)
and Safari
Zapping PRAM
Cache removal from Firefox
Removal of Spotlight Indices sudo mdutil -E /
System Logs from both OSs are attached.
I'll crack the case today and see if something is loose but I'm running
out of options. Thanks for any help.
advance for any posting which is not appropriate.
Configuration:
Please see attachment for System Profile information. The
machine has two internal drives; the original Apple included
250 GB ST3250820AS P and a 500 GB Seagate ST3500320AS
which I added. The 250 GB boots Tiger which had not been
used regularly for a while and was patched last Friday to
10.4.11. It seems like the symptom became worse after the
patching on the Tiger drive. The 500 GB drive runs Leopard
which is patched regularly and currently is at 10.5.6.
Symptoms:
Machine particularly after sitting overnight will not boot up.
Sometimes it makes it to the login prompt sometimes it does not.
It usually presents itself with an incomplete graphics character
screen (missing pieces), squiggly changing graphic characters,
or graphic characters that look similar to a test mode program.
The same problem can occur during a "wakeup" from sleep mode
with the machine idle for several minutes. The length of time
appears to track linearly to the problem.
I have occasionally allowed the machine to "self heal". After
20 minutes the machine will eventually come on line usually only
to repeat the same process during the next boot.
Workaround:
When this occurs the only way to get the machine back
on line quickly is to boot Tiger (Command-c) during boot
and run
Disk Utility -> Repair disk against the 500 GB drive. I do
hear disk thrashing while the problem is occurring which led
me to suspect an unclean shutdown but I believe that the
thrashing can also occur during a re-indexing operation for
Spotlight. After the disk repair is completed the OS will come on
line. When OX 10.5 is online if I remember to run a Disk Repair
against the 10.4 drive and boot from the 10.4 drive I can reduce
this startup fiasco.
Machine Usage: Primarily web cruising, streaming video from
Television programs (which I'm suspicious may
have contributed if not caused the problem)
and Logic Pro.
Fixes Attempted:
CTRL-v during startup to look at messages
Console troubleshooting
Disk Repair both Permissions and fsck
Extensive Hardware Diagnostics from Install DVD
Firmware upgrade on Seagate 500 GB
Clearing download lists from Firefox (primary browser)
and Safari
Zapping PRAM
Cache removal from Firefox
Removal of Spotlight Indices sudo mdutil -E /
System Logs from both OSs are attached.
I'll crack the case today and see if something is loose but I'm running
out of options. Thanks for any help.
