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I was just thinking the same thing, and ended up here searching for some answers. If you can't overclock a mac fsb through software/bios in any way, it must be because the fsb is set from factory and cant be changed?
so if that is the case, it should work in theory to put a cpu with 1066 mhz fsb and get it to run in 1333 mhz. If the fsb isnt controlled by the cpu? would be intrersting to hear from someone who tried it :)
but im afraid Transeau's right.
The mobo asks the CPU for the information to set up the timings. Just like it asks the memory for it's timings. I have not seen a way to overclock EFI yet, so you have to hope someone could so it in software (on the OS X side).

We are not talking C2Ds here. I would not suggest to anyone any overclocking on a Mac Pro.

That is odd, I thought the Xeons were of the Core 2 line. If they are not, what line are they from?



What kills me is how everyone here thinks that one processor of a speed is really different from another of a speed. All CPU makers do part binning. Two dies from the same wafer could run at two different speeds. Intel has been known to sell a faster part as a slower part to make up for margins. In Intels Extreme CPU's the processor multiplier is unlocked. Which basically means you can raise the multiplier higher than the stock level (you can always lower multipliers even on locked CPU's). Intel's stuff can run much faster than what they sell it for, all you have to do is wait for AMD to announce a faster part and see Intel ratchet up their CPU speed in lock step.
 
Few misconceptions in here:

Overclocking, especially if no voltage changes take place HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT ON THE LIFE OF THE CHIP.

Temperatures, again, if kept under 60/70C will not shorten the life of the processor so much that it will die in 6 months. If it does then it was a weak chip and would have died anyway.

I currently looking at a Mac Pro to replace my PC but for what I get its stupidly expensive when compared to a £600 rig I can overclock myself and out perform it.

However I want OS X so thats what draws me to the MP.

Im tempted to buy an old 2.66 quad and wack some 1333Mhz chips in for 3.06Ghz Quad with a space for another in the future...

Extremely tempting!
 
I agree. Increasing voltage is way more dangerous for a chip than overclocking. Higher electric fields can lead to lethal microscopic breakdowns and increase the heat output exponentially whereas hogher clockspeeds lead in the worst case to a linear increase of current flow and heat.
Stress due to overvoltage leads to a much higher risk of failure than a bit more heat. slightly higher fan speeds can easily compensate this and as long as your CPU temperature is less than 60-70°C you are far away from the critical temperature.

And remember the fact that Notebook CPUs (e.g the core2duo of the MBP) easily reach 75°C and more and do not have a particularly high failure rate. Now compare a notebook to the heavy heatsinks of a Mac Pro which make it almost impossible to reach 60° even under heaviest load...
 
I don't think it's that easy to overclock a Mac Pro, I think you might need to do some soldering. There's no jumpers that I'm aware of, in fact, my previous Xeon systems had no jumpers, the CPU simply operated at the rated speed of the CPU, switch to a faster CPU and the system would figure it out and run that CPU faster. And this was with the P4 era Xeons. The Xeon CPUs don't seem to work like the consumer chips do.
 
MacPro Overclocking tool now available

We have just finished a tool for Mac Pro overclocking. No soldering, no other CPU required, no voltage increase. Just download and run "ZDNet Clock".We've got a 2.8 GHz Mac Pro running at 3.17 GHz with original Apple memory. FB-DIMMs from Transcend or Kingston run stable at 3.25 GHz. (24 h stress test with mprime)

Find all the details here.

Regards,

Christoph
 
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