Alright. it's been a given in the PC industry that you could 'build it yourself' cheaper than buying from a major OEM. So I priced out the parts (or a similar alternative,) of a mac pro from PriceWatch. For a system using Intel's S5000XVN 'workstation' motherboard, two 2.66 GHz Xeons, two 512 MB 667 MHz FB-DIMMs, a GeForce 7300 GT, the cheapest 250 GB hard drive, cheapest DL SuperDrive, cheapest 400 watt case/power supply combo, cheapest FireWire 800 card, and el cheapo mouse and keyboard; it came to $2540, or $41 more expensive than Apple. And that's without an OS. (I was assuming using a Linux.) I also compared to Dell and HP systems of similar specs, and the Dell was slightly more expensive, while the HP was significantly more expensive. (I also compared dual 3 GHz with a Quadro 4500, and the price difference with the HP grew even more. That Quadro is the only card offered by all three companies, so I figured that was the only truly 'fair' comparison.) Sorry, had a browser crash that lost the exact numbers on this comparison.