Do you think they'll still be worth 2300 on a Quad Core Mac Pro?I would say they are already overpriced by now (they would have been within a month or so after they were released) but the important thing is that there may not be updates till Q2 2010. So, until then, they are the newest and best (some '08 systems are probably better) and the "overpriced-ness" of the parts can only go up if not stay the same.
The Quad core Mac Pro is the base model of the higher end desktop mackintosh. It has a Xeon processor (one (quad), two (octo)). The current model was released in March '09.I'm very naive, but I'm seriously thinking of buying a MacBook Pro 17" so I'm intrigued by the topic of this thread. Why is the value of this computer in question? When was it first issued? What is a Quad Core Mac Pro?
I've posted only about the iphone on this site, so this is my first post about an Apple computer.
Prices on the hardware the Mac Pro uses won't change much during it's lifetime, nor will the prices Apple charge. The big changes tend to be new graphics cards comming out, though for OS X they tend to come out a long time later. As ssri1983 pointed out though, it is already overpriced compared to the same sort of hardware from other companies.Do you think they'll still be worth 2300 on a Quad Core Mac Pro?
Ive got another year and a half at college for design, planning on trading my 3 1/2 year old Macbook Pro and Gaming computer to my parents for a Mac Pro around christmas time. Would this be a worthy trade for a design student/gamer?
Ive been reading the forums this summer and people complaining about the "value" of the 09 Mac Pro. Is it really that bad?
I guess you're talking about the 2009 Mac Pro models? Nope, not outdated at all. They're right in Apple's planned product cycle with new machines about to be served up. The 2009 models were overpriced (between $1k and $2K spread across the base prices) from the get-go though - I guess they're more over-priced now that the distribution channels for similar/equivalent parts are nice and saturated.Do you think the Mac Pro hardware is sorta out dated? Like are the parts by now sorta over priced?
Just a question. I'm not complete geek here, but wondering.
And how about by Christmas?
Same here! Although I think now that Apple raised prices they would keep them hovering in that area... But Apple did lower the MacBook to $1K, so one never knows...When Apple releases whatever it is they have planned for their 2010 lineup they'll be as much at the forefront of the planned-obsolescence curve as all the other VARs and etc. (I just hope they don't overprice it again this time!
I'm with Dr.Pants on this one. Now that the MSRP's are where they are, I wouldn't expect a sudden shift the other way.When Apple releases whatever it is they have planned for their 2010 lineup they'll be as much at the forefront of the planned-obsolencence curve as all the other VARs and etc. (I just hope they don't overprice it again this time!).
This has been discussed extensively in multiple threads, and your view is shared by many here.The system/chip price Apple tries to pull on the quad Mac Pros disgusts me. Regardless of how much they say it cost them to "develop", there should never be this much profit margin on a professional product. If you compare today's MP to one from 2006, one could easily get TWO of the 2009 Xeon 3200 series CPUs for the same price as ONE of the original dual core Xeons. I'm not trying to complain here, but the fact that they also ridiculously overcharge on BTO options like a RAID card ($700, seriously?) just aggravates me. I miss the days when a MP could actually be a good value, and not just a novelty workstation only for the people who can justify throwing money at Apple. Don't get me wrong, I have a 2009 quad and love it to death, but only because I got it for $1,500 on craigslist.
Maybe the refurbs will be slightly generous in pricing.Not that MP users shouldn't hope for lower prices on the 2010 models, but I wouldn't "bet the farm on it" as the saying goes.
Heh. Well, since Solaris isn't going anywhere, we've gotta make our own I have the itch to manage a startup like that, but the competition-space means that the fledgling We-Make-Apple-Esque-Computers LLC. would be subjected to all sorts of strain. Especially making an OS, which isn't something done overnight.No doubt. I certianly don't have that kind of scratch lying around.
The pricing compared to original retail will be nice, but when compared to what you are getting, will still be ridiculous.Maybe the refurbs will be slightly generous in pricing.
I wouldn't mind doing something like that myself, but I doubt my programming skills are up to it as they are. I don't know the API's well enough to make a nice UI, as I work with Hardware Description Languages (VHDL for example). The API's are components/gates/functions, not things that are made to create a "UI Button".Heh. Well, since Solaris isn't going anywhere, we've gotta make our own I have the itch to manage a startup like that, but the competition-space means that the fledgling We-Make-Apple-Esque-Computers LLC. would be subjected to all sorts of strain. Especially making an OS, which isn't something done overnight.
I mean, to have an OSX-like-interface and UNIX enviroment.... We can steal ZFS for a filesystem
Unfortunately, this is apparently what it's all about for Apple. Margins. Obscene ones at that.... I hear someone talk about them I'm reminded of how they value an extra .5% profit margin over the satisfaction of their loyal customers.