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I knew they wouldn't abandon the mac pro! They sure did take their sweet time though...

I just hope it actually has decent hardware specs though. And I don't mean the cpu, that should be straightforward. I'm talking about things like ram and graphics options. And ram at the very least... because as much as I like Apple, charging someone $2600 for a computer with 3 gigs of ram is just plain wrong. Doesn't even matter what else is inside that machine...

But, just a few days and we'll see what the future holds!
 
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I think you need to define what you mean by "professional". I'm a professional photographer. I don't need a roadmap...
Agreed!
If I was professional stripper, would I like to know what the future dance poles are gonna be like :)
Sorry just dont get road map part.
I do the budgets for my dept.
I just write down...6 new Mac Pro's next fiscal.
If its the same model as three years ago, so be it.
 
True, graphene in the IT would be truly revolutionary. But unfortunately, this tech still needs several years of research, thus I don't expect the first graphene CPUs to come before 2020, or perhaps even later.

Also, I completely agree on Intel being a lazy company. Too much of 'I am already #1, so why try harder...?' attitude.
They have already been doing several years of research, but sadly most of that in the last 5 years has been IBM trying to implement it on PPC variants. If Intel and AMD joined in we could see truly great non-x8sickening cpus we should have gotten years ago.

I wish that was the case, because there has to be a reason for AMD also acting in a similar fashion(well at least with their cpus, it seems like they are trying a bit with their IGPs).
 
Finally, I can get my 2008 8-core Mac Pro. Those things are cheaper than new Macs but are way faster because all of the pros use them but upgrade quickly.

Those old 8 cores may be faster than the low end 4 cores (and even that seems doubtful) but nowhere close to the 8 and 12 core machines, not even the six. Just the addition of hyperthreading makes a big difference in apps that can take advantage.

No, they are nowhere near that.

Depends on the model, the old quad G5 is probably faster than the first generation or two of xeon quads, but newer ones will beat it easily (along with just about every current i7 quad mac).
 
I know that this is completely off topic, but I can't create a topic D: (Idk why) well, I wanted to buy a MBP (i heard the rumours etc.) but I really like the current MBP so I don't know if to buy now or to wait. Also, how long does a MBP last? like if the battery wastes can I just get it replaced and continue on as normal? I hope you can help me, cuz I wanna know this before I go and buy one thanks :D
 
The currently reality is that 30" panels are an 'odd ball' size now. So their prices are not going to be "close to what you paid for". Back then 30" was at the high end but not an 'odd ball' size. Now it is both the 'odd ball' size and at the high end which is only gong to have a bigger impact on price.

The NEC is likely closest

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4196/nec-pa301w-review-the-baddest-30-inch-display

Not sure if it is the price that is knocking it out of contention. The part about "step up in size" at the same time wanting to lock in the old 30" price point ... not sure if those two go together. Vendors may tweak up the pixel density (so more pixels in 30 or 27 space) but I don't think many are going to chase larger screen area. At least for high gamut color solutions.


There isn't a 30" in Ezio's current product mix. Yet another indicator that it is an 'odd ball' size. There are still 30" models still floating around out there in the retail channel. They don't move very fast so they will probably be there for a while.

It's Eizo and you are correct that their professional line tops out at 27". It's that way across the industry. Where the 30" and above surfaces are with Medical Displays ala the Eizo RadiForce RX840:

http://www.eizo.com/global/products/radiforce/rx840/index.html

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Panel: TFT Color LCD Panel (IPS)
Size: 92 cm / 36.4" (923 mm diagonal)
Native Resolution: 4096 x 2160
Display Colors: 10-bit colors (DisplayPort) : 1.07 billion (maximum) colors
8-bit colors: 16.77 million from a palette of 68 billion colors

Or it's smaller RadiForce RX430 29.6" panel

http://www.eizo.com/global/products/radiforce/rx430/index.html

There is the HP ZR30w (30" S-IPS panel) though I think it's a drop from their HP LP3065 series (http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/e...70-3884471-3297215-3297272-3322968.html?dnr=1).

http://shopping1.hp.com/is-bin/INTE...D=3ScQ7EN5dXcAAAEtkx5VIOIQ&CatalogCategoryID=

HP tends to discontinue their better products and come out with cheaper replacments (cheaper in quality and same in price).

HP LP3065 panel:

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Déja vu:

Those Were Mac Mini and White MacBook Part Numbers, Not Mac Pros

Those were part numbers leaked without pricing. These are near the current Mac Pro price points...and it doesn't seem likely they'd ship new Minis priced like Mac Pros. Assuming this leak isn't totally fabricated, these sure look like new mac pros, the only question is the specifics of each model and how much the BTO options will cost.

Personally I'm hoping for 8 ram slots (new version is quad channel, right?) on all models. And heck, if they're keeping the same base price model I'd like to see them go back to 8 cores in the base like they used to, or at least six.
 
Depends on the model, the old quad G5 is probably faster than the first generation or two of xeon quads, but newer ones will beat it easily (along with just about every current i7 quad mac).

Well, according to Geekbench scores, 2.5GHz Quad G5 gets smoked by the cheapest current 11" Air with 1.6GHz Dual i5. Big Time...

Amazing, innit?
 
And that's Just dell the Eizo's are way way better.

And my 2 dells cost me £800each on Ebay 3 year Swap out guarentee

They often had similar reported panel specs to the Dell when looking at them on paper, but they were well implemented, and somewhere along the line those panels must be binned given the tolerance levels they use.

Those old 8 cores may be faster than the low end 4 cores (and even that seems doubtful) but nowhere close to the 8 and 12 core machines, not even the six. Just the addition of hyperthreading makes a big difference in apps that can take advantage.



Depends on the model, the old quad G5 is probably faster than the first generation or two of xeon quads, but newer ones will beat it easily (along with just about every current i7 quad mac).

I remembered barefeats did a test.. This is quite impressive for running under Rosetta. I don't think all applications did this well. It is important to note that the cpu generation used by the mac pro 1,1 was supposedly a big step up, and Apple was shipping dual socket workstations standard at the time.

It's Eizo and you are correct that their professional line tops out at 27". It's that way across the industry. Where the 30" and above surfaces are with Medical Displays ala the Eizo RadiForce RX840:

They had a 30" in their CG line a while ago. I recall the PVA one which I think was replaced with an IPS version. The only ones I actually saw were incredibly uniform, but they cost $5k at the time. It seems like Eizo is cheaper in the UK though. Whenever I've done the currency conversion, they were at least 20% lower. With their CG displays, they're still pretty much using generic parts these days, but they do guarantee a specific level of tolerance, and they add a lot to it on the software end as well. Even then they're quite expensive.
 
Hot seller or not. The Mac Pro is an important part of the Mac eco system.
I am convinced Apple knows that.

Once again our Cupertino-friends are doing the right thing. And everyone can cheer up a little.
 
This. Or, create an independent company (similar to what Filemaker is) that focuses only on the pro market, creating specific, high-end hardware, and software with Apple's blessing. Take away the expectation of revenue that has to compete with the consumer market, and create a healthy, viable entity with ... us ... in mind. Servers, virtualization, workstations for the video and scientific market. Swift upgrades with a multi-year roadmap, dropping the super-secrecy that Apple is known for. A sea-change.

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That would actually be bad for us imho. As it works now, Apple avoids "divisions" within the company. No single entity within Apple has to make a profit - it simply has to contribute towards the overall Company profit line (at least according to the Jobs biography). So... at is now MacPros can actually be sold at a loss (per unit) but still be worthwhile for Apple to continue selling - because they can sell so much Pro SW to make up for the HW costs. (This is all hypothetical - for all we know Apple has figured out that for every MacPro the owner buys $2,000 worth of songs and apps.)

If the Pro stuff was spun off into a separate division/company as suggested then that synergistic connection is lost. The Pro division would actually have to show a profit on its own. And anything that couldn't show a profit would be cut.
 
I sure hope it's true. It's about friggin' time.


The very first thing I shall do after blowing lots of cash on a new Mac Pro will be to figure out how to get Snow Leopard running on it. :D




*** And.... to ALL the naysayers who liked to visit the Mac Pro forums and pepper in their negative comments, a big middle finger to all of you. ***
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One reason we were told that Apple needed to change to Intel processors was to get more timely updates of the cpu. Just compare the short time for G5 changes compared to this almost 2 year wait for a new Mac Pro, which by the way is not here yet, just the rumor. Also we were told that IBM promised 3 GHz in a year but could not do that. My 6 year old Mac Pro at 3 GHz has a clock speed faster than most current Mac Pros. The biggest difference I see in my wife's water cooled G5 PowerMac & my MacPro is the ease I have in running Windows. I don't want to get in that argument as to which is better or why, I am just referring to the reasons Apple gave us for the switch.

I'll be there the first day to order a new Mac Pro. I just hope that its clock speed will be faster than my 6 year old Mac Pro. I know that my current 17" MacBook Pro has a faster cpu than the current 17" models. If Apple doesn't get too carried away with the power usage of their too thin 1" MacBook Pros then we may see some 3+ GHz models for a change. But no where in this is their any mention of any new 17" MacBook Pros. I guess that my charge cards will not get used as much as they could have been.
 
Actually a bigger reason than any of those was that they couldn't get PPC chips that were a good fit for laptops. A G5 quad tower was a pretty damn fast machine even with 2.5ghz clock speed - it wasn't a problem getting fast PPC, it was getting fast enough without being blazing hot and killing battery life.

Besides decent improvements on the desktop side, Intel certainly has delivered on the laptop front so even with things slowing down a bit I think Apple is still completely happy with the decision to switch.

Clock speed isn't something to fixate on, even without it going up much, machines have become much faster anyway.
 
I'll be there the first day to order a new Mac Pro. I just hope that its clock speed will be faster than my 6 year old Mac Pro. I know that my current 17" MacBook Pro has a faster cpu than the current 17" models. If Apple doesn't get too carried away with the power usage of their too thin 1" MacBook Pros then we may see some 3+ GHz models for a change. But no where in this is their any mention of any new 17" MacBook Pros. I guess that my charge cards will not get used as much as they could have been.

Clock speed should only be used to compare among identical CPU architectures.

Current gen CPUs are faster than last gen, even when the newer CPU has the same or slower clock speeds.
 
Huh?



WAY over 1TB internal.



Lets see, 100gb? My home network has about 18TB of space....and well I'm at work right now. My Windows workstation currently has a total capacity of 12TBs, and right now its almost full at 9TBs. So yeah, ipad is a no no.



Why the hell would you want an A5 in a Air or a desktop?

Because the iPad rules. Actually because some do not understand the difference between a large iPod Touch & a computer let alone a workstation like a Mac Pro.

My current Mac Pro has 2 3TB & 2 2 TB drives in it. I would usually replace the 2 2s when the new 4 TB drives come out. Even my MacBook Pro has 2 750 GB drives in its 17" case. And I'm not even pushing it with dual 1 TB models.

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The A5 is good, but its nothing what like Intel Can offer.

Yes, I have power PC macs myself. But PowerPC is dead. And I don't see Apple giving up tons of compatibility and power by going to ARM.

And currently my Intel Macs runs Windows so much better than my PPC Macs. But Windows 8 is supposed to be able to run on the A5 ARM. Oh I forgot, this is a Mac Rumors site.
 
And currently my Intel Macs runs Windows so much better than my PPC Macs. But Windows 8 is supposed to be able to run on the A5 ARM. Oh I forgot, this is a Mac Rumors site.
That is because the PPC was thankfully made to not to support Windows, after all its a Mac, not a PC with an Apple logo on it.
 
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