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Mac Pros May See Bus Speed Increase With Penryn

Wake me up when it has a great GPU (8800 GTX!). There is no reason for not having some good graphics cards options for a machine that can cost $15,000+ when maxed out.

It is a step forward that the Macbook Pro has a good graphics card (even though they chose the lower memory one). However, for every other line, Apple's graphics cards choices are either non-existent (Macbook) or woefully underpowered.
 
Nugget said:
Christmas seems too soon to expect iMac updates in light of the fact that the iMac just got a complete facelift just a few weeks ago. Nothing on the Intel roadmap, either, that would seem to encourage such a rapid update.
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Maybe they'll drop the price $200 by Christmas:mad:
 
KindredMAC said:
With my PMG5 Dual Core 2GHz at home, I have my iPod (3G) hooked up to my FW800 port with a FW800 dock connector and my iSight hooked up to the FW400 port. If the iSight is turned on, the iPod will start clicking as if the HD is going bad. I found out after searching the data banks on Apple that the FW bus gets "corrupt" so to speak and the only way to reset it is to turn the machine off, unplug it from the wall for 10 seconds and then replug it back in.
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This sounds more like an electrical issue to me. The iSight probably depletes the Firewire bus of electrical current to the point that the iPod can't get enough. Get a cheap PCI Firewire card and you'll probably be back in business. (But I know, you shouldn't have to do that... but a $15-$20 card will likely solve your problem.)
 
smirk said:
This sounds more like an electrical issue to me. The iSight probably depletes the Firewire bus of electrical current to the point that the iPod can't get enough. Get a cheap PCI Firewire card and you'll probably be back in business. (But I know, you shouldn't have to do that... but a $15-$20 card will likely solve your problem.)
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You are correct. The power output for the Firewire 800 was underpowered on at least my G5 compared to my Powerbook G4 with multiple devices. I hope the Mac Pro doesn't have that problem.
 
Powermac performance...

Hey everyone. I noticed a few people talking about performance. Its Apples fault! They have made such an efficient OS :). I have a PowerMac G5 1.6GHz, 4GB of RAM and a Radeon 9600 w/256 vRAM and it opens most applications in one "dock bounce". I have noted no difference in using most apps and just the interface by itself vs. my girlfriends 2.16GHz macbook. Obviously the macbook is "faster", but the G5's are still blazing machines! Even the lowest end, remember they outgunned the 3.2GHz Xeon's when they were released.
 
Wild-Bill said:
Ditch the FW800 Apple and give us eSATA. That is the way forward. :apple:
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oh hell no.

Some of us keep our MBP's and MP's in sync with FW800. Personally, I DO NOT want to go back to FW400 for dumping 30G+ from my desktop to notebook.

May you should think more along the lines of "ADD eSATA" and NOT "Ditch FW800"
 
Well, the MacPro is a pro machine and I'd say that pros don't care much about the look of it. They want it's power.
And BTW all towers are ugly with all of the cables coming out of them. But the current MP is far sexier than everything I've seen on the PC market.
 
Hope that with the bus speed increase the speed of the memory will increase as well, if the bus speed increases it would make sense that the memory would increase in speed too. Otherwise I don't see the use of it (but than again i'm not that technical so I might be wrong). An eSata input would be great too.
 
Oh yeah, forget to mention the graphics cards, the current ones are trully pathetic and not to mention very old. But people must understand that Apple doesn't see this as a game PC/Mac. It's workstation ment to be used for things like FCP. Though it must be said that motion for instance does use the GPU.

Well we will see.
 
RoDe said:
Oh yeah, forget to mention the graphics cards, the current ones are trully pathetic and not to mention very old. But people must understand that Apple doesn't see this as a game PC/Mac. It's workstation ment to be used for things like FCP. Though it must be said that motion for instance does use the GPU.

Well we will see.
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Ok fine, so stop charging 2 year old prices for ancient video cards.
 
I have a hunch

It's going to be a bit smaller with a few minor design changes an they'll be different colors :D
 
hehe..

dante@sisna.com said:
You've got to be kidding!

A Quad Mac Pro or Quad G5 WILL be a "HUGE Increase in Speed" compared to any Dual G4. There is no comparison.
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Will I see a performance boost when I upgrade from my G3 iBook?? :). Handling those 200MB+ TIFF files will be slightly faster me thinks!
 
Is the US Apple Store down for anyone else?

I couldn't remember what they shipped the current Mac Pros with RAM-wise. Was it 2x512? I sure hope that changes with the refresh. :(
 
bilbo--baggins said:
The whole graphics card situation is ridiculous. They should update the graphics cards as new ones become available - even without waiting for a major upgrade to the computer as a whole. Even if they don't do that - they should make all the latest graphics cards available as CTO options. Ideally they should make the latest graphics cards available to buy separately.
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That would be fine and dandy, but there aren't drivers available for that situation like there are for Windows.

This situation is unlikely to change until a consumer tower shows up and ATI/Nvidia start catering to the upgrade market again. The Mac Pro is a tiny niche, unfortunately.
 
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