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I think Apple really is pushing the pricing boundaries.

BUT, and this is big, they actually made it! They knew it would always be a niche product, and one that they might even prefer to skip, but they gave us what many if not most people were looking for. They also gave it to us in a gorgeous and superbly-engineered form that almost no one but Apple can do -- just at a high price.

That's almost a fair bargain.
 
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In one of Tim Cook's many sit-down interviews, it would be funny if someone had the balls to ask "So what is it about those little wheels for the Mac Pro that makes them cost $400?"
 
I think Apple really is pushing the pricing boundaries.

BUT, and this is big, they actually made it! They knew it would always be a niche product, and one that they might even prefer to skip, but they gave us what many if not most people were looking for. They also gave it to us in a gorgeous and superbly-engineered form that almost no one but Apple can do -- just at a high price.

That's almost a fair bargain.

Seriously?? There's a difference between high pricing and gouging. ...and then there is whatever you call a $400 set of computer wheels. I don't think "almost a...bargain" is remotely in the conversation. In fact, I think the greedy folks over at Apple would even snicker if they read that.
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Honestly he probably does have something prepped to say incase someone asks.

Yes, something dull and boring and Tim.
 
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My point is that a high priced solution is better than no solution. But whatever, rant on...
 
My point is that a high priced solution is better than no solution. But whatever, rant on...

Okay, will do. My point is that far too many people seem inexplicably happy to be raped by Apple on this. "After a mere SIX years of stagnation, you finally went back and gave us today's equivalent of what we had prior and simply wanted updated, at a price point that almost none of those wanting and waiting for 6 years can afford or justify? Thank you, sir, may I have another?!"
 
Hehe, I ordered my 7 with wheels. Why? Because I have too much money and I don't want "duck feet" on my machine!

But no worries, they will pay for themselves many times over as I surf macrumors! ;)
 
I think it's amazing how we're even discussing this Mac Pro. It is not for 99.9% of us, even those who can afford it. It's a computer with a truckload of power for tasks that require a truckload of power. I don't think anyone here is working on the next Spiderman movie.
 
I think it's amazing how we're even discussing this Mac Pro. It is not for 99.9% of us, even those who can afford it. It's a computer with a truckload of power for tasks that require a truckload of power. I don't think anyone here is working on the next Spiderman movie.

You'd think incorrectly. There are multiple users here in the industry.
 
I think it's amazing how we're even discussing this Mac Pro. It is not for 99.9% of us, even those who can afford it. It's a computer with a truckload of power for tasks that require a truckload of power. I don't think anyone here is working on the next Spiderman movie.

It might not be for 99.99% of us/you NOW, but give it another few years and you might need to scale your hardware up to enable yourself to do more demanding work. Your applications might have new overheads for certain operations that you haven't even thought about yet. Apple are ahead of you. If and when that situation arises you'll be glad the Mac Pro exists. I speak from my own experience of being a DTP guy once upon a time, to transitioning fully into 3D work including highly demanding particle simulations, rendering and animation, and I ended up doing this almost totally by accident for the entertainment industry. As a solo freelancer I hung on for the ride and love it, but I am responsible for my own hardware which means the new Mac Pro is the only option for me.

If I could afford the cost I would absolutely buy a fully maxed out Mac Pro with everything and enjoy every second spent on it and the new creative possibilities that it opens up. 3D is all about compromise, optimisation and working leaner. 3D is so demanding on your hardware which restricts your creativity. I'm always pulling back on my ideas because I know I'll be watching the beachball for hours or locking up my machine. To have that lifted would be beyond wonderful. But I'll settle for the 16 core until I'm making enough bank to play with the big boys.
 
I think it's amazing how we're even discussing this Mac Pro. It is not for 99.9% of us, even those who can afford it. It's a computer with a truckload of power for tasks that require a truckload of power. I don't think anyone here is working on the next Spiderman movie.

Here we go again... The excuse-making for this product release is almost as powerful as the machine itself. Except, it's not THAT powerful until you dump thousands more into the already over-priced base.

It's an objectively bad value. Period. Great design and expandability; terrible value. No need to even compare to other brands either— compare base iMac Pro to baseMac Pro and *boom*: bad value.
 
...and then there is whatever you call a $400 set of computer wheels.
I call them lovely! Just bought a set for my ole 3,1. Now if I can figure out how to install the afterburner I will be closer to a DYI 7,1! 🤩
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I think it's amazing how we're even discussing this Mac Pro. It is not for 99.9% of us, even those who can afford it. It's a computer with a truckload of power for tasks that require a truckload of power. I don't think anyone here is working on the next Spiderman movie.

It has a truckload of power if you are willing to spend $40,000 or more. For $6,000 you get nothing more than a kick in the nuts and bringing a smile to Tim Cook's face.
 
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