Mac security propaganda

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well im having a lovely discussion at another forum, some people are claiming that OSX has been hacked and stuff, and FileVault is as weak as puppies.

just wondering, as I've never really been knowledgeable in this subject, how tough is OSX?
 

iGary

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Not one virus on OS X in five years.

90,000 known viruses + for Windows.

OS X unaffected by spyware, malware, adware.

Windows - you guessed it.

File vault isn't a real good arguing point. Few people use it.

Tell them to uninstall all of their adware, spyware, malware and virus protection, surf the Web and see how long it is before their machine is crippled.
 

Applespider

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If you put your Mac onto the internet after enabling all those ports (that ship closed), enabling every kind of sharing, remote login, turning off the firewall, have a weak (crackable) username and password - someone will probably be able to get into your system.

Keep those services off when you're not using them, keep the firewall up and you're, so far, OK. There is nothing 'in the wild' that can install itself with the user unaware and let a hacker own your machine.

Equally, if someone has physical access to your Mac, they could do damage - particularly with an OS X boot disc so they can change passwords etc. But again, that's true with most systems.
 

BakedBeans

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raggedjimmi said:
well im having a lovely discussion at another forum, some people are claiming that OSX has been hacked and stuff, and FileVault is as weak as puppies.

just wondering, as I've never really been knowledgeable in this subject, how tough is OSX?
file vault is military grade encryption?
 

Soulstorm

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raggedjimmi said:
well im having a lovely discussion at another forum, some people are claiming that OSX has been hacked and stuff, and FileVault is as weak as puppies.

just wondering, as I've never really been knowledgeable in this subject, how tough is OSX?
Really, it is the toughest thing you can buy.
In OS X, it has been recorded no virus, no adware etc. For filevault really I can't tell you. I am not using it. But few people need it anyway...

To see how safe a machine is, jjust look how many programs for mac security are out there... Zero! No one I know uses anti-virus programs. And that's because they haven't found any.
 

WinterMute

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AL-FAMOUS said:
file vault is military grade encryption?
Not quite, the US military are believed to be using 256-bit encryption with viral alteration and re-encrytion.

FileVault is 128-bit AES: (from Apples site)

"AES gives you 3.4 x 1038 possible 128-bit keys. In comparison, the Digital Encryption Standard (DES) keys are a mere 56 bits long, which means there are approximately 7.2 x 1016 possible DES keys. Thus, there are on the order of 1021 times more possible AES 128-bit keys than DES 56-bit keys. Assuming that one could build a machine that could recover a DES key in a second, it would take that machine approximately 149 trillion years to crack a 128-bit AES key.

(To put that into perspective, the universe is believed to be less than 20 billion years old.)"

It's tough encrytion, but it's only as good as the password you protect it with.

FileVault stops someone ripping your data off if they nick your machine, it doesn't stop them downloading it all onto an iPod if you wander away from your machine for lunch without sleeping or activating another passworded feature (like a screensaver).