Mac Snobs .vs. Solaris Snobs

[combatcolin]

A better question would be why would there need to be a home version? There isn't a home version of Mac OS X. What would a home version (of either Solaris or Mac OS X) entail?

In fact, to date the only home version of a Windows OS is Windows XP Home... which is a crippled version of Windows XP.

I guess the best answer would be that neither Sun nor Apple distributes a crippled version of their operating systems.

Your reading into that wayyyy to much anti Windows bias.

What i was politly asking was simple.

Is there a version of Solaris that peole can use on their PC at home?

 

[tag]

Your reading into that wayyyy to much anti Windows bias.

What i was politly asking was simple.

Is there a version of Solaris that peole can use on their PC at home?

Ok I think what he meant before going off onto the tanget about Windows was that no, there isn't a home version. There is just one current version that can run in an office/home/mad scientists lab/whatever.

Just like a linux distribution, while there may be different distributions from different companies/people, they only usually offer one version, which of course can be highly modified to suit your needs at installation time.

But to RacerX, if you think about it Mac OS X is kind of like a home (or maybe a home/office) version isn't it?(albeit not crippled in anyway). I mean there is a server edition.

 

[combatcolin]

mad scientists lab/whatever.

Like it

 

[RacerX]

Your reading into that wayyyy to much anti Windows bias.

Well, it isn't an anti-Windows bias... it is an anti-Windows XP Home bias.

When the Windows NT line started there was a workstation and server version sold by Microsoft. When Windows NT 5.0 was rebranded as Windows 2000 the workstation version was relabeled as the Professional version (while the server version remained server).

Through out all of that, the primary difference between the workstation/professional version and the server version was the addition of a suite of server software and additional features/abilities.

With Windows XP (Windows NT 5.1) Microsoft took the added step of disabling features to create the Home edition of XP.

But to RacerX, if you think about it Mac OS X is kind of like a home (or maybe a home/office) version isn't it?(albeit not crippled in anyway). I mean there is a server edition.

By comparison, Mac OS X is more like the workstation/professional versions of Windows NT and Mac OS X Server is like the server versions. But there isn't a version of Mac OS X (that Apple has released) that is like the Home edition of Windows XP.

What i was politly asking was simple.

Is there a version of Solaris that peole can use on their PC at home?

Yes.

And it should be noted that many of todays server distributions (including Mac OS X Server) can be used just like any other version of the OS.

For example (people had to know this was coming... ) I have been using Mac OS X Server 1.2 as a standard operating system on my systems for years. When Apple decided not to release a workstation version of Rhapsody and to only release it as a server OS, that didn't change anything about the base OS... it was still Rhapsody (bundled with a suite of server software).

But if you don't install (or use) that server software, the OS is just the same as a workstation version. This is just as true of Mac OS X Server 10.x.x today as it was of Mac OS X Server 1.x.x. The only reason to not use Mac OS X Server 10.x.x as a regular OS is the price (because you would be paying for software that you wouldn't be using). But in the case of Mac OS X Server 1.x.x, there wasn't a Mac OS X 1.x.x (Rhapsody) parallel release, so to use it as a workstation OS you had to get the server version.

I've had all the versions of Rhapsody (including all the versions of Mac OS X Server 1.x.x) for years running in my home on multiple systems. And it wasn't until about 6 months ago that I actually set up one of my systems as a server.

And more to the subject at hand, I've had Sun systems in my home since 1999 (all running Solaris) and not a single one as ever been used as a server. In fact my total experience (to date) with Sun systems (going back to 1994) has been using them as standard workstation systems. I've never worked with (or set up) a Sun system as a server.

 

[Doctor Q]

Speaking of Solaris, did you see today's big Sun news?

Scott McNealy steps down as Sun CEO, remains chairman

He's been CEO forever (well, 22 years). I thought he'd be there forever.

 

[zap2]

Mac, because i have never met anyone who uses Solaris(well anyone who talked about using it)

Hell i bet only a few people in my grade have even heard of Solaris(me and my friend, and we both know little about it)

Many of the people have never heard of Linux, it a bad real bad, well atleast i know about it

 

[combatcolin]

Well, it isn't an anti-Windows bias... it is an anti-Windows XP Home bias.

When the Windows NT line started there was a workstation and server version sold by Microsoft. When Windows NT 5.0 was rebranded as Windows 2000 the workstation version was relabeled as the Professional version (while the server version remained server).

Through out all of that, the primary difference between the workstation/professional version and the server version was the addition of a suite of server software and additional features/abilities.

With Windows XP (Windows NT 5.1) Microsoft took the added step of disabling features to create the Home edition of XP.

By comparison, Mac OS X is more like the workstation/professional versions of Windows NT and Mac OS X Server is like the server versions. But there isn't a version of Mac OS X (that Apple has released) that is like the Home edition of Windows XP.

Yes.

And it should be noted that many of todays server distributions (including Mac OS X Server) can be used just like any other version of the OS.

For example (people had to know this was coming... ) I have been using Mac OS X Server 1.2 as a standard operating system on my systems for years. When Apple decided not to release a workstation version of Rhapsody and to only release it as a server OS, that didn't change anything about the base OS... it was still Rhapsody (bundled with a suite of server software).

But if you don't install (or use) that server software, the OS is just the same as a workstation version. This is just as true of Mac OS X Server 10.x.x today as it was of Mac OS X Server 1.x.x. The only reason to not use Mac OS X Server 10.x.x as a regular OS is the price (because you would be paying for software that you wouldn't be using). But in the case of Mac OS X Server 1.x.x, there wasn't a Mac OS X 1.x.x (Rhapsody) parallel release, so to use it as a workstation OS you had to get the server version.

I've had all the versions of Rhapsody (including all the versions of Mac OS X Server 1.x.x) for years running in my home on multiple systems. And it wasn't until about 6 months ago that I actually set up one of my systems as a server.

And more to the subject at hand, I've had Sun systems in my home since 1999 (all running Solaris) and not a single one as ever been used as a server. In fact my total experience (to date) with Sun systems (going back to 1994) has been using them as standard workstation systems. I've never worked with (or set up) a Sun system as a server.

My God man!



I read 1 sentance and then had to quote you.

All i asked was there a vesion of Solaris you could use at home?

Now i could have asked, is there a version for PC or Mac or Amiga?

SIMPLE ENOUGH QUESTION!

 

[floriflee]

Ah.... I love Solaris! I can't wait to get a Solaris machine for work! Woohoo!

If you only knew the power of the VI editor.....

BTW... I worked on a Solaris X86 a long time ago. Seemed okay enough, but the Unix flavor will always be my preference.

 

[floriflee]

You do know a Solaris snob -- me.

I'm a dual snob. I like all Unixes ("Unicies"?), but Solaris is the one I work with the most, so I tend to promote it. Mac OS X is my other favorite.

Ha! I don't know why, but that reminds me of a funny story. I had an English major for a roomie my last year of college. One day I mentioned something to her about Unix. She got a very confused look on her face. Found out later that she thought I was talking about eunuchs. Ha ha ha!

Hmmm... maybe you had to be there.....

 

[greatdevourer]

Ha! I don't know why, but that reminds me of a funny story. I had an English major for a roomie my last year of college. One day I mentioned something to her about Unix. She got a very confused look on her face. Found out later that she thought I was talking about eunuchs. Ha ha ha!

Hmmm... maybe you had to be there.....

Unzipping, fingering and grepping eunuchs...

 

[RacerX]

I read 1 sentance and then had to quote you.

All i asked was there a vesion of Solaris you could use at home?

Now i could have asked, is there a version for PC or Mac or Amiga?

SIMPLE ENOUGH QUESTION!

Hopefully you read the one sentence that said Yes.

Beyond that the response wasn't just for you. I was also responding to tag's inquiries about the different versions of Mac OS X (Mac OS X and Mac OS X Server).

This is a discussion board and you are not the only person contributing or reading this thread. I try to make my responses as complete as possible for others with similar questions.

Oddly enough, all my answers were complete and polite... while your last post seems to have left the polite category.

I would suggest not reading too much emotion into the posts of others in the future (assuming that is the reason for your emotional response) and not to take offense at people providing complete answers (as those types of answers help to make this forum a better resource).



And you may want to have that Caps Lock key checked on your system.

 

[killuminati]

Mac snobs have class.

Oh really?

 

[yellow]

The amount of Solaris Snobs are even smaller then the amount of Mac Snobs or Linux Snobs. And infinitely more geeky than the sum of both latter groups. I can say this in all confidence of spending the last 10 years in the company of a troupe of Solaris Snobs. Physicists.

You do know a Solaris snob -- me.

I'm a dual snob. I like all Unixes ("Unicies"?), but Solaris is the one I work with the most, so I tend to promote it.

Oh Doc.. this explains so much! I <3 U.