Confusing
May as well also add a "Mac Studio Air" with some variant of leftover M1 chips

May as well also add a "Mac Studio Air" with some variant of leftover M1 chips
My M2 Max Mac Studio is working just fine. I just took another look at several performance comparisons between the M2 Max and M4 Max. Upgrading is clearly not worth it - at least not for me. Frankly, at this point, I think holding off on the Mac Studio update until the M5 chip family comes out makes more sense.
I'd like to upgrade my M1 Ultra mainly because of the gimped HDMI protocols. Getting native 7680x2160@120Hz has been a challenge for sure.My M2 Max Mac Studio is working just fine. I just took another look at several performance comparisons between the M2 Max and M4 Max. Upgrading is clearly not worth it - at least not for me. Frankly, at this point, I think holding off on the Mac Studio update until the M5 chip family comes out makes more sense.
THAT is peak? You must never look at anything from Intel or AMD.Apple release an M4 Max /M3 Ultra Mac Studio? 🙄
Well done. Peak product line fragmentation achieved.
Makes no sense. Pro machines are more likely to get updated around WWDC in my opinion.
The only reason i can think of [and this is serious tin-foil hat craziness] is solely because of Cyberpunk 2077 launching on MacOS.
Apple wants to come out and show Nvidia and AMD that Apple Silicon can
A. Achieve 60 fps+ on ultra Settings at 4K with full Path tracing RT at half the TDP of a 14900K+5090 combo. [500W Peak vs 1500W peak]
B. Showcase the M3 Ultra outperforming an RTX 4090
C. Achieve 10+ hour gaming battery on a M4 Macbook Air with no fan at 1080p Ultra while achieving 50c stable temperature for 8+ hours
D. Show off a $499 Mac Mini achieve 1080p max settings
The M5 is going to be released this year, hence why an M3 Ultra now is pointless. It would be two generations behind. A regular M5 would likely already beat it for a fraction of the price. An M5 Max would beat it without a doubt.M3 isn't obsolete. Apple is today releasing a iPad Air with an M3... how is it obsolete when it is in a new product? It is not a maximum bragging rights option , but obsolete (no support , won't get software updates) ... nope.
It makes sense if Apple is trying to squeeze more revenues out of the R&D development costs for the M3 Max. The M3 Max only ran for a year in the MBP 14/16". And then it gets to go where? Apple develops this substantively large chip and then throws it away after 12 months?
Nobody does that for relatively large dies. Nvidia came out with their new data center chips but didn't stop selling the old ones.
Similar reason why the Mac Studio and Mac Pro floating on for extended period of time after MBP 14/16" jumped off the M2 ... somewhere for maximum sized M2 dies to go to recoup more of the investment.
It would be awkward. But it does make some sense if trying to save money on chip costs. ( and if Apple has more N3B wafers to soak up on their TSMC contract. ) . The M4 Max is typically no where near 2x as fast as a M3 Max. The M1 and M2 has large gaps but the M4 is better , but not by a HUGE amount. Twice as many CPUs/GPUs/NPUs/video encode/decode the M3 would have an advantage for folks who mainly needed highly parallelized , larger workloads.
If the M3 Ultra was 'brand new" die like suggested, then no. It doesn't make much sense. That single die solution from "Max Tech"... that is worse than Gurman as far as accuracy goes. Only if the production costs were vastly cheaper than two dies and Apple could substantive lower the Ultra Studio costs. I doubt that is true (but depends upon the costs of InFo-LSI packaging costs and defect overhead. )
And as mentioned if delay a Mac Pro to Fall and roll out M4 Ultra on that they'll have the product gap between two products folks have grumbled about. When Studio gets M5 Max / M4 Ultra the Mac Pro goes M5 Ultra . Rinse and repeat .
And here I am still waiting for the PowerBook G5 to shipShould just call it M3 Super Ultra Pro Max…
Why are they releasing an M3 chip in 2025?
I don't think the M4 Max has it either.This seems very sketchy...
M4 Max with M3 Ultra?
I thought M3 Max didn't have ultra fusion or whatever its called, but M4 Max does...
Also, isn't all an Ultra chip just 2 Max chips combined together? Should be pretty easy to put 2 M4 Maxes together.
The thing is, neither the M3 Max or M4 Max chips have the ultrafusion interconnect. It will be interesting to see what Apple does here. An Ultra chip with the interconnect would make an "Extreme" config possible, but I doubt Apple would be so bold.M3 Ultra - not a chance.
If the Ultra remains the “linking” of the Max, it’ll be the 4.
If it is something different, why call it M3 Ultra?
It makes perfect sense as a fairly specific false thing to tell internal folks in order to root out leakers.Makes no sense. Pro machines are more likely to get updated around WWDC in my opinion.