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I don't think Apple has any plans to revise the Mac Studio, as far as design. The design isn’t that old (by Apple standards), and there isn’t any tech coming up that would warrant a redesign. For example, Thunderbolt 5 is coming, but that’s an internal change that doesn’t require a new design.

The huge heat sink takes up lots of room in the Mac Studio. There are new devices that are smaller that could do the job of thermal control, but I haven’t heard about Apple implementing those solutions, which are actually pricier that the heat sink being used.

I'd greatly prefer an M4 Ultra SOC with lesser fan whine about 1500 RPM. I have waited 3 years for an update and will probably wait longer for an updated desktop from Apple.
 
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My M2 Max Mac Studio is working just fine. I just took another look at several performance comparisons between the M2 Max and M4 Max. Upgrading is clearly not worth it - at least not for me. Frankly, at this point, I think holding off on the Mac Studio update until the M5 chip family comes out makes more sense.

Agreed. Upgrading to an M4 Max version really only makes sense if you're currently on the original M1 Max version. With the incremental upgrades each generation has seen, you'll need to wait 3 or 4 years for there to be a significant enough increase in performance to make it worth the ~$800+ cost of selling the old one and buying a new one.
 
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Good news that the M4 Max Studio is on the way sooner rather than later. I think that (and the code name, J575) is the only news Gurman/Bloomberg has.

The stuff about M3 is a restatement of something he reported in April 2024: “For the Mac Studio, Apple is testing versions with both a still-unreleased M3-era chip and a variation of the M4 Brava processor.”

That must have been from a good source, if he’s still banking on it today. Regardless, it doesn’t really fit what we know.
 
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There is absolutely ZERO percent chance that they release a Mac Studio with an M3 Ultra chip, what a stupid nonsense prediction. This sounds like Apple is just trying to find the leaker and who Gurman’s source is, and after hearing this ridiculousness, I’m gonna guess that they’re caught lol.
 
My M2 Max Mac Studio is working just fine. I just took another look at several performance comparisons between the M2 Max and M4 Max. Upgrading is clearly not worth it - at least not for me. Frankly, at this point, I think holding off on the Mac Studio update until the M5 chip family comes out makes more sense.
I'd like to upgrade my M1 Ultra mainly because of the gimped HDMI protocols. Getting native 7680x2160@120Hz has been a challenge for sure.
 
Reading how strong some affirmations are, this thread will become a greatest hit if Apple finally releases a M3 Ultra Mac Studio this week.
 
Makes no sense. Pro machines are more likely to get updated around WWDC in my opinion.

The only reason i can think of [and this is serious tin-foil hat craziness] is solely because of Cyberpunk 2077 launching on MacOS.

Apple wants to come out and show Nvidia and AMD that Apple Silicon can

A. Achieve 60 fps+ on ultra Settings at 4K with full Path tracing RT at half the TDP of a 14900K+5090 combo. [500W Peak vs 1500W peak]
B. Showcase the M3 Ultra outperforming an RTX 4090
C. Achieve 10+ hour gaming battery on a M4 Macbook Air with no fan at 1080p Ultra while achieving 50c stable temperature for 8+ hours
D. Show off a $499 Mac Mini achieve 1080p max settings
 
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Mark “Flippity Floppity” Gurman trying to save face here after he said that the iPad 11 was gonna have Apple Intelligence (it didn’t)
 
Lol, the most hilarious comment so far.

M3 anything won't beat 4090 and by now you should know that Apple doesn't care about high level gaming. To make a launch mostly about gaming is as ridiculous as Intel saying we will win Apple back.

The only reason i can think of [and this is serious tin-foil hat craziness] is solely because of Cyberpunk 2077 launching on MacOS.

Apple wants to come out and show Nvidia and AMD that Apple Silicon can

A. Achieve 60 fps+ on ultra Settings at 4K with full Path tracing RT at half the TDP of a 14900K+5090 combo. [500W Peak vs 1500W peak]
B. Showcase the M3 Ultra outperforming an RTX 4090
C. Achieve 10+ hour gaming battery on a M4 Macbook Air with no fan at 1080p Ultra while achieving 50c stable temperature for 8+ hours
D. Show off a $499 Mac Mini achieve 1080p max settings
 
M3 isn't obsolete. Apple is today releasing a iPad Air with an M3... how is it obsolete when it is in a new product? It is not a maximum bragging rights option , but obsolete (no support , won't get software updates) ... nope.


It makes sense if Apple is trying to squeeze more revenues out of the R&D development costs for the M3 Max. The M3 Max only ran for a year in the MBP 14/16". And then it gets to go where? Apple develops this substantively large chip and then throws it away after 12 months?

Nobody does that for relatively large dies. Nvidia came out with their new data center chips but didn't stop selling the old ones.

Similar reason why the Mac Studio and Mac Pro floating on for extended period of time after MBP 14/16" jumped off the M2 ... somewhere for maximum sized M2 dies to go to recoup more of the investment.


It would be awkward. But it does make some sense if trying to save money on chip costs. ( and if Apple has more N3B wafers to soak up on their TSMC contract. ) . The M4 Max is typically no where near 2x as fast as a M3 Max. The M1 and M2 has large gaps but the M4 is better , but not by a HUGE amount. Twice as many CPUs/GPUs/NPUs/video encode/decode the M3 would have an advantage for folks who mainly needed highly parallelized , larger workloads.

If the M3 Ultra was 'brand new" die like suggested, then no. It doesn't make much sense. That single die solution from "Max Tech"... that is worse than Gurman as far as accuracy goes. Only if the production costs were vastly cheaper than two dies and Apple could substantive lower the Ultra Studio costs. I doubt that is true (but depends upon the costs of InFo-LSI packaging costs and defect overhead. )


And as mentioned if delay a Mac Pro to Fall and roll out M4 Ultra on that they'll have the product gap between two products folks have grumbled about. When Studio gets M5 Max / M4 Ultra the Mac Pro goes M5 Ultra . Rinse and repeat .
The M5 is going to be released this year, hence why an M3 Ultra now is pointless. It would be two generations behind. A regular M5 would likely already beat it for a fraction of the price. An M5 Max would beat it without a doubt.

Who would shell out thousands more for an old Ultra, when 6 months later a much cheaper, more efficient, and more powerful chip replaces it? An M4 Ultra would at least hold its own for a while.
 
Well, Gurman's predictions are always suspect. This one even more so than normal. I suspect that some of the ambiguity comes the fact that the M4 Max doesn't have the fabric adapter to enable sticking two together to make the Ultra chip. I think this is likely because the Ultra will be something altogether new this time.

In any event, it will be interesting to see how this plays out. An M3 Ultra makes absolutely no sense at all.
 
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How stupid, don’t believe him on this at all. So they’ll release an M4 Max and then for double the price an M3 Ultra that’s barely faster. Yeah right.
 
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Very suprised by this. But will not be surprised if Gurman is wrong again. If a new Mac Studio does launch soon, then M5 announcement at WWDC with iPad Pro is a possibility.
 
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M3 Ultra - not a chance.
If the Ultra remains the “linking” of the Max, it’ll be the 4.
If it is something different, why call it M3 Ultra?
The thing is, neither the M3 Max or M4 Max chips have the ultrafusion interconnect. It will be interesting to see what Apple does here. An Ultra chip with the interconnect would make an "Extreme" config possible, but I doubt Apple would be so bold.
 
Makes no sense. Pro machines are more likely to get updated around WWDC in my opinion.
It makes perfect sense as a fairly specific false thing to tell internal folks in order to root out leakers. :) In that way, it makes as much sense as expecting an M2 Extreme. :)

People think an Ultra has to be two Max’s tied together because of the M1. In reality, the only thing any “Ultra” has to be is “faster than Max”.
 
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