I would like to think Apple would release OS X for generic PC hardware before they'd kill off the Mac completely.
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I would like to think Apple would release OS X for generic PC hardware before they'd kill off the Mac completely.
sparkyhodgo
macrumors newbie
Like last week's post about GPUs, this appears to just be a restatement of information about another company's product, which has been available for some time.
throAU
macrumors G4
People keep saying Apple will kill the Mac, but the Mac is a bigger business than most PC OEMs in its own right.
ARM_sucks
macrumors newbie
It only "seems", and usually those things seems to those who have no ability to use computers or produce anything substantial. Try next time to push more buttons, hopefully you can make your phone work harder 🙂🙂
Depends on how performant they want to get. It could range from adding a few instructions to help software translations to ARM, up adding a full-blown core.
OneMike
macrumors 603
Never understood why Apple doesn't make their own processors. Why would a company with as much capital as Apple, allow a vendor's production schedule to dictate product releases? Unless it's all planned out … and Intel agrees to play the scapegoat each time.
Andres Cantu
macrumors 68040
Apple shouldn't depend on Intel for yearly product improvements. There are other ways for them to improve their products year-over-year, even if the processor stays mostly the same.
Stop comparing with $300 POC Windows laptops with hdds . A loaded XPS 15 sky lake notebook will come close to a top of the line iMac 27 on gpu performance and will smoke a 2015 rmbp 15.
AppleScruff1
macrumors G4
You don't see the problem because you are thinking logically and rationally. Welcome to MacRumors! 😀
I'm in the market for a new computer right now, and MacBook Pros are off my list because the CPUs are so out of date.
Currently, I have a 2010 MacBook Pro, it was released shortly after Intel's Arrandale microarchitecture. I purchased it shortly after it was released, and It's lasted me for nearly 6 years now (would probably last longer if the discrete GPU hadn't died).
If I bought one of the current MacBook Pros I would be starting out nearly 2 years in the hole (I'm looking for a 13" - if I went 15" it'd be nearly3 years in the hole).
If you upgrade your computer every 2 years it's not a big deal, but for those of us who like to hold on to our computers for a long time, we would very much like Apple to stay current with Intel.
They are, Apple already sells far more products with ARM processors than they do with Intel ones.
iPhone, iPad, iPod, iWatch, AppleTV.
I will not be surprised if Apple introduces the ARM chips into the MacBook Air line at some stage.
I would be surprised. The x86 change allowed them to gain many customers who would have never considered macs otherwise (myself included). If they switch to ARM, I'm going back to PCs.
Mr. Dee
macrumors 603
All the better, my Broadwell 13 inch MacBook Pro can remain the latest and greatest a little longer. 😉
Does it even matter though? The niche crowd who upgrades to the latest and greatest every year are just that, a niche. There are probably persons still getting enough value out of their Macs from 2010. I know a graphics designer who was using 233 iMac G3's with 160 MBs of RAM, OS X Panther, Photoshop CS and Illustrator CS back in 2007 to do freelance work and making really good money out of it.
For many, having the fastest is about who can have the bigger D. The 2015 Retina MacBook is honestly not a game changer or must have and its one of things Steve Jobs preached in 2005. Its not about clock cycle, but performance per watt. We have all forgotten and kinda fallen into trap of measuring innovation based on CPU speed.
Does the 2012 Retina MacBook Pro look any different from the 2014 Retina MacBook Pro? No. Sure, one might be a little bit more powerful, but I am sure you can accomplish the same work you did in 2012 in 2015 just the same.
Does it require more processing powerful for post production of a show like Scandal, Suits or House of Cards? Does it require any more powerful GPUs to create artwork going on a T-Shirt or business card?
Does it even matter though? The niche crowd who upgrades to the latest and greatest every year are just that, a niche. There are probably persons still getting enough value out of their Macs from 2010. I know a graphics designer who was using 233 iMac G3's with 160 MBs of RAM, OS X Panther, Photoshop CS and Illustrator CS back in 2007 to do freelance work and making really good money out of it.
For many, having the fastest is about who can have the bigger D. The 2015 Retina MacBook is honestly not a game changer or must have and its one of things Steve Jobs preached in 2005. Its not about clock cycle, but performance per watt. We have all forgotten and kinda fallen into trap of measuring innovation based on CPU speed.
Does the 2012 Retina MacBook Pro look any different from the 2014 Retina MacBook Pro? No. Sure, one might be a little bit more powerful, but I am sure you can accomplish the same work you did in 2012 in 2015 just the same.
Does it require more processing powerful for post production of a show like Scandal, Suits or House of Cards? Does it require any more powerful GPUs to create artwork going on a T-Shirt or business card?
adib
macrumors 6502a
I wonder why do you feel the need to anchor iOS with ARM. With touchscreens, maybe. With processor architecture? No way.
OS X made the move just fine from Power PC to Intel and this can be done again even easier. I'm not surprised if they already have a working OS X for ARM, but just not released yet.
OS X made the move just fine from Power PC to Intel and this can be done again even easier. I'm not surprised if they already have a working OS X for ARM, but just not released yet.
ryanlindner
macrumors newbie
Mac is just leaving the Mac pro people behind. Really starting to think of changing to Windows 10. Ever since the iPhone they do not care about us pro users. These update cycles are insane, and there selling the mac pro at the same price from 2 years ago! So why keep investing in this eco system when things like thunderbolt 1, 2, are not even supported by the people that made it!
I'd like to see osx on non-mac machines legitimately from Apple. Thumbs up for that idea. 🙂
brianvictor7
macrumors 65816
End Macs?! Do you kiss your mother with that filthy mouth?
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Okay that was seriously funny.
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Very unlikely to happen. Ever.
ssgbryan
macrumors 65816
And watch apple's share of the computer market go back to 5%.
Those of us who remember those days have no interest into returning to them.
They weren't The good ol' days, they were the dark ages.
throAU
macrumors G4
Apple dragging their feet with cpu upgrades started back with the 68k.
This is nothing new, for years the PowerPC was slower than intel, and the G5 was an unmitigated disaster.
If you think that Apple failing to jump on the new intel CPU instantly is a new thing (since iOS), well... i'm not sure what else to say.
Apple are not just an intel CPU reseller. They sell a platform that is not available anywhere else.
The basic problem is that an A9x can compute the SHA-1 algorithm twice as quickly as a Intel 6700k.
Gaze upon the scores and despair, Intel fanboys!
Assumming tha SHA1 isn't obsolete, this is a serious bodyblow to Intel.
Oh wait.
Gaze upon the scores and despair, Intel fanboys!
Assumming tha SHA1 isn't obsolete, this is a serious bodyblow to Intel.
Oh wait.
throAU
macrumors G4
Also, we happen to do more with our laptops/desktops than just calculate SHA hashes all day.
MarcoB
macrumors newbie
The advent of iPhone, iPad and ARM architecture hit Intel so hard they are still feeling the pain. ARM took advantage of Intel inability to react to new ways to user computers.
I hope now that Apple has its own chip design branch, they make a new architecture transition to ARM for the Mac line like they did from Motorola to Intel.
I hope now that Apple has its own chip design branch, they make a new architecture transition to ARM for the Mac line like they did from Motorola to Intel.